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vi...@google.com
We have shared this with our product and engineering team and will update this issue with more information as it becomes available.
ma...@gmail.com
Please five the users (us) the coise what we want and what wo don't want. Please add a possibilty for us to unblock this setting.
kl...@gmail.com
Android without tasker makes no sense! Google, stop terrorizing with restrictions!
jm...@gmail.com
I'm sure you are trying to protect naïve users from problems and malware but this restriction is also making things very difficult for more advanced users. Please consider an unblocking setting possibly within developer settings.
pa...@gmail.com
If I had to choose a restricted mobile phone then I would buy an Apple. Please don't make me do that.
Tasker is the best and safest application for android.
Tasker is the best and safest application for android.
ch...@gmail.com
Blocking old APK files will irreparably damage old apps that were "finished" and don't require constant updates, games for instance.
This also affects apps that were made precisely because Google removed permissions, like toggling wifi in Android Q.
You either create a new permission for third-party apps to toggle wifi OR you give up blocking old apks.
lb...@gmail.com
We already have a setting to allow installation of APK files, even though we already have a confirmation dialog of the OS for each installation.
I don't get why we need yet another restriction.
If the OS has backward compatibility, it should allow to install. If it has some security issues related to it, they should be fixed, or some other special solution should be chosen, such as trying to have a better sandboxing or even converting the app into a new one.
Even 32 bit apps are said not to be supported anymore.
There are plenty of old apps that we can trust, even if they are not updated anymore.
Many of these apps don't even have important permissions (such as games).
There is no reason to block such apps.
I don't get why we need yet another restriction.
If the OS has backward compatibility, it should allow to install. If it has some security issues related to it, they should be fixed, or some other special solution should be chosen, such as trying to have a better sandboxing or even converting the app into a new one.
Even 32 bit apps are said not to be supported anymore.
There are plenty of old apps that we can trust, even if they are not updated anymore.
Many of these apps don't even have important permissions (such as games).
There is no reason to block such apps.
sa...@gmail.com
Please Google don't kill some of the most important apps. It's annoying! You should rather consider taking a consent from developers before implementing. Take some notes from Apple here. Atleast let the power users like us to use apps like Tasker settings or Tholotis-blur for that matter. Not all apps are malware inducing
cz...@gmail.com
Google, what we want from Android is an OPEN platform.
Please do not take away the joy of using an Android phone.
Please do not take away the joy of using an Android phone.
al...@gmail.com
Please don't push advanced users aside like this. The flexibility is probably the main reason most people use Android over iOS.
an...@gmail.com
In the name of security Google is imposing more and more draconian restrictions. Whatever happened to "do no evil"? I am sure Google will remain stone-deaf to it's users pleas as usual. At the very least let the more tech-savvy users re-enable this option using an ADB command or something like some of the news portals had mentioned. Please don't be like the control-freak Apple.
r....@gmail.com
This is just too restricting. We need to be able to decide ourselves what we want to install.
ri...@gmail.com
Please offer users a setting to disable this blocking. Perhaps there could be a persistent notification category for any of these "Security High Risk" settings that will be shown if any "High Risk" options are selected. This notification could open these settings for editing and information on the Risks involved with the settings. This way they are always clearly shown to the user and easily disabled if desired.
Thank you for considering... Rich..
Thank you for considering... Rich..
ma...@aim.com
I believe that for the average person that will never have a reason to install an app targeting an older API, having a default to prevent the app from being installed makes sense in the same way that Android currently handles installing apps from other sources. There should be either a toggle to allow any app targeting an older API to install like the unknown sources toggle, or at least a prompt alerting the user of the issue and directing them to settings to allow the exception.
For advanced users, it may be the case that an app never received updates to target the latest API. I know I have many of these: old games, apps to control smart devices, etc that might not even be in the Play Store anymore. Being unable to use these apps would make it impossible for me to do things I do every day. Another big one is an app called Tasker Settings, which targets the older API to allow me to toggle WiFi on and off automatically among other things.
Like I said, I think blanket removing the ability to install apps that use the older API versions is basically taking away a feature that is a huge draw to the open nature of AOSP. The versatility and backwards compatibility. Pleases consider what I and many others are saying here to have some sort of setting to allow the installation of apps targeting an older API.
For advanced users, it may be the case that an app never received updates to target the latest API. I know I have many of these: old games, apps to control smart devices, etc that might not even be in the Play Store anymore. Being unable to use these apps would make it impossible for me to do things I do every day. Another big one is an app called Tasker Settings, which targets the older API to allow me to toggle WiFi on and off automatically among other things.
Like I said, I think blanket removing the ability to install apps that use the older API versions is basically taking away a feature that is a huge draw to the open nature of AOSP. The versatility and backwards compatibility. Pleases consider what I and many others are saying here to have some sort of setting to allow the installation of apps targeting an older API.
sh...@gmail.com
Please enable the option to install these apps from Developers settings. I use Tasker settings daily. If this is implemented, I will not be able to use it.
pa...@gmail.com
Allow installing any old apps if enabled a setting in developer's options seems a good middle ground for this situation. Those who know risks will accept and proceed for installations.
mo...@gmail.com
Please don't active this because the phone company's lately for update and we have more apps in old API
mo...@gmail.com
I using Tasker settings please don't do this for API
be...@gmail.com
Please allow for technically sophisticated users to be able to continue to use apps like Tasker - they make Android much better to use, and we influence other people to use Android rather than Apple.
vo...@gmail.com
There should be an option for the advance/power user to handle the way the phone they want knowing about the security concern. So I request you to give the option to disable the block. Please 😊
ch...@gmail.com
Yes, give the users a choice, instead of thinking of money all the time
is...@gmail.com
I understand the desire to improve security and even boost the public image of Android vs. Apple as Apple touts it's superior security since it won't allow sideloading apps.
However, forcing users to choose between the functionality they purchased OR the security you want to provide is not the right answer.
Have you considered how many users will not upgrade their phones to avoid having their freedom taken away?
I will not upgrade if there is no way to bypass this restriction.
However, forcing users to choose between the functionality they purchased OR the security you want to provide is not the right answer.
Have you considered how many users will not upgrade their phones to avoid having their freedom taken away?
I will not upgrade if there is no way to bypass this restriction.
ra...@gmail.com
I am using Tasker settings, please don't do this the API
ji...@gmail.com
Please continue to allow Android users to use their devices in the manner that suits them. Android does not need to be Apple
ka...@gmail.com
exactly
me...@tuananh.org
I am using Tasker settings, please don't do this the API
al...@gmail.com
There needs to be an option to install these apps from Developers settings. Not doing so is a middle finger to the people that prefer Android over Apple for its customizability.
ns...@gmail.com
At least add the option in developer settings to allow apps to be installed.
ri...@gmail.com
Porfavor consideren poner una opción para desbloquear esta característica, están matando android!
fm...@gmail.com
Legacy need not die with this....
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ro...@gmail.com
A setting or developer setting to allow this would be great.
li...@gmail.com
We absolutely need this. We also need a way to preserve logcat access after reboot!
te...@gmail.com
Guys, the best reason for using Android is Tasker. Cripple it, and we might as well all migrate to the dark side
jc...@gmail.com
I agree, Tasker is truly a one of a kind app. Removing functionality from it is a good reason to never upgrade Android again.
tw...@gmail.com
Also adding a comment to please allow apps like tasker to remain fully functional. If I wanted CrApple restrictions, I would have bought one of their devices.
az...@gmail.com
I love Lightning Launcher app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.pierrox.lightning_launcher_extreme . Although the app has not been updated for more than 3 years, it continues to serve without complaint. And it is the best launcher I have had so far. I've tried many new ones, but none has as many features as this one. Why give up on something just because it's old? Old is not always worse.
fr...@gmail.com
Don't touch Tasker functionalities team.
sl...@gmail.com
C'mon Google. Just don't, just DON'T be APPLE!
mi...@theturners.com.au
This is dumb. Dont be apple.
en...@gmail.com
Request to please keep the provision of enabling the tasker settings.
ch...@googlemail.com
Android without Tasker is like a car without wheels. I`m not going to buy an Android 14 phone if that issue isn't solved properly!!!
ch...@gmail.com
The level of control and customization that apps like this provide is one of the major selling points of Android! Please don't turn Android into another flavor of iOS!
ma...@gmail.com
Please allow and override
ta...@gmail.com
Legacy is not necessarily a bad thing. There are apps I use that are no longer being updated but are fully functional and do exactly what they were meant to do.
Tasker is not a legacy app, but it does fall along the lines of other legacy apps. Removing the ability renders this and so many other apps useless.
If I wanted a close system, I'd join the Apple bandwagon.
Tasker is not a legacy app, but it does fall along the lines of other legacy apps. Removing the ability renders this and so many other apps useless.
If I wanted a close system, I'd join the Apple bandwagon.
ty...@gmail.com
Please don't restrict the installation of outdated apps.
ja...@gmail.com
Google If you act like apple I will treat you like apple. I don't use apple products, if you want to keep using my personal data and serving me ads please stop finding reasons to make me want to degoogle my life once and for all.
sa...@gmail.com
Advanced users need to be able to install "outdated" apps.
Please add an option for advanced users.
Please add an option for advanced users.
js...@gmail.com
Don't do this described below in the article!!! VVVVVVVV
You're giving users less and less reason to use Android. The customization, development aspects of android and its apps, as well as power user apps like tasker make android useful. Stop locking android down so that its users have no reason to stay with u. The pixels are barely keeping up with iPhones anymore if not outright losing. iOS has better RAM management. If u lock it down so that we basically have an iphone why not just get that?
https://9to5google.com/2023/01/23/android-14-block-install-outdated-apps/
https://www.xda-developers.com/android-14-block-outdated-apps/
Please offer users a setting to disable this blocking. You can let it be blocked by default, but give users a choice if they want it, still.
Also offer API for APK installers to give the users a choice there about it.
And if none of these is accepted, at least put it in the developer options.
Many apps can be trusted even if they aren't updated anymore.
Issue summary
You're giving users less and less reason to use Android. The customization, development aspects of android and its apps, as well as power user apps like tasker make android useful. Stop locking android down so that its users have no reason to stay with u. The pixels are barely keeping up with iPhones anymore if not outright losing. iOS has better RAM management. If u lock it down so that we basically have an iphone why not just get that?
Please offer users a setting to disable this blocking. You can let it be blocked by default, but give users a choice if they want it, still.
Also offer API for APK installers to give the users a choice there about it.
And if none of these is accepted, at least put it in the developer options.
Many apps can be trusted even if they aren't updated anymore.
Issue summary
ra...@gmail.com
At least make this optional.
mi...@gmail.com
Android is known for giving us users choice, but if you decdied to lock everything from us. We will all switch to IOS
ga...@gmail.com
I was naturally drawn to your operating system because of the freedom users have. I did not like the prison cell that is the Apple operating system.
There is a compromise here, as suggested in many of the posts. Allow the block to be disabled by people who wish to do so. Most users won't even know that anything has changed, but there is a significant amount of people who will, and it will adversely affect them.
People make informed and adult choices when deciding to use Android over Apple. They respect the freedom of Android. Please show that same respect back to your users - ultimately customers, putting money into your organisation - and allow a block to be overridden by those who wish to do so.
A compromise here would be beneficial for both parties.
PS The Tasker app and all its abilities are more important to me in my day to day life than you could imagine. I have remained loyal to Android because if this app. If this changes, my loyalty changes as well.
There is a compromise here, as suggested in many of the posts. Allow the block to be disabled by people who wish to do so. Most users won't even know that anything has changed, but there is a significant amount of people who will, and it will adversely affect them.
People make informed and adult choices when deciding to use Android over Apple. They respect the freedom of Android. Please show that same respect back to your users - ultimately customers, putting money into your organisation - and allow a block to be overridden by those who wish to do so.
A compromise here would be beneficial for both parties.
PS The Tasker app and all its abilities are more important to me in my day to day life than you could imagine. I have remained loyal to Android because if this app. If this changes, my loyalty changes as well.
jo...@gmail.com
Being able to install whatever app I like on my phone is a must have. I consider myself as prudent enough to be able to install only apps I trust. Blocking the installation of old apps by default could be a thing, but we absolutely need a way to disable this functionality (e.g. in developer options).
le...@gmail.com
Google, please add an option to disable this restriction, do not turn Android into iOS.
en...@gmail.com
Please make a way for us advanced users to disable the restriction (I would put it in developer options).
sa...@gmail.com
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sa...@gmail.com
Please add a toggle in developer settings instead of adb. There are people who do not have a PC, and it would be impossible for them to use that adb flag.
an...@gmail.com
Google Must Stop this Procedere to Close the best Apps tasker and the rights Google should ASK the Developer of tasker top add tasker directly in the Android Its the best Apps ever i use all the App tasker etc about ten years
ma...@gmail.com
Please allow apps to target older APIs especially for high-utility automation apps. This would be a huge blow!
gr...@gmail.com
As a user of tasker, an automation app that relies on access to older API to maintain functionality, I personally think Google should allow some workaround for power users to have control over their devices and the ability to grant apps to access more under-the-hood stuff which often requires permissions and older APIs. I understand the security concerns for normal users but dumbing down the apps and restricting functionality isn't a proper solution IMO.
ex...@gmail.com
I would very much like to see this remain available for Tasker.
ha...@gmail.com
As a power user, this is an unjust punishment. As a disabled user, Tasker is literally the way to make using Android phones pain free - both mentally and physically. Please don't make interacting with my phone any more painful to use by taking away ways to automate repetitive interactions like being able to change simple settings. Hide it in dev settings, but please don't cripple this cripple's phone.
en...@gmail.com
Please reconsider this, as this would SIGNIFICANTLY impact Tasker, one of the best automation apps available on Android. These automation features are what makes Android so great compared to iOS, so please consider some exception cases!!
ig...@gmail.com
I agree, don't cripple this cripple's phone!
th...@gmail.com
The installation of apks easily is the only reason many ,including myself, haven't jumped ship to iOS. If I am unable to install apks from my phone directly, Android is done and there is no reason to stay.
The whole point of Android is user freedom and flexibility. The day it fully turns into iOS is the day Android loses it's competitive advantage.
The whole point of Android is user freedom and flexibility. The day it fully turns into iOS is the day Android loses it's competitive advantage.
de...@gmail.com
If Google wants less users, it's doing great!
ca...@gmail.com
Don't take Tasker and it's functionality away. No point in Android then compared to Apple.....
sy...@gmail.com
Please don't take this away. I love Tasker.
ec...@gmail.com
I discovered and installed Tasker with my first smartphone over a decade ago and, with EVERY new phone upgrade, I come back to Android phones SOLELY because of Tasker. If you disable Tasker, or subordinate apps to Tasker, functionality, I have no reason anymore not to switch to an iPhone.
rj...@gmail.com
I understand the motivation to make Android more secure by default, but superusers are an important core of its userbase, and accommodations really need to be made in order to retain them. A setting to unblock apps like Tasker is a must, if not in the standard settings, at least under developer settings.
qw...@gmail.com
Customisability and app availability was the entire selling point of android. If Google continues limiting the user's possibilities, android will just become the worse iOS.
va...@gmail.com
I use several old apps that do a simple job and do it perfectly. Example, "night clock" by ned fox. Simplicity, zen. It's already a problem API's change so often that newer androids can't use it.
But having one day to abandon it just b/c it's "old" it's beyond my understanding. It's just dumb.
I don't have tasker (my Android is too old apparently), but I use Automate and the ability to programmatically turn WIFI on/off literally helps me with self-control.
But having one day to abandon it just b/c it's "old" it's beyond my understanding. It's just dumb.
I don't have tasker (my Android is too old apparently), but I use Automate and the ability to programmatically turn WIFI on/off literally helps me with self-control.
xa...@gmail.com
Google stop being stupid and let us use our android as we want to 😠 😡
pi...@gmail.com
Tasker and Tasker settings are basic necessities of life. You can't do without it.
so...@gmail.com
Please don't further clipple us!
di...@gmail.com
Please consider an unblocking setting possibly within developer settings.
lb...@gmail.com
Now it's official:
https://developer.android.com/about/versions/14/behavior-changes-all#minimum-target-api-level
A possible workaround is via adb (and hopefully on rooted devices too), to use this when installing:
adb install --bypass-low-target-sdk-block FILENAME.apk
I don't know if this is supposed to last later as it doesn't seem to be intended for users.
Google, please change this. You can block by default and offer a setting in case we want to disable this blocking, and of course have a warning for each time we install such an APK.
A possible workaround is via adb (and hopefully on rooted devices too), to use this when installing:
adb install --bypass-low-target-sdk-block FILENAME.apk
I don't know if this is supposed to last later as it doesn't seem to be intended for users.
Google, please change this. You can block by default and offer a setting in case we want to disable this blocking, and of course have a warning for each time we install such an APK.
an...@borgia.bo.it
One big selling point of Android was the relative openness of the system, compared to iOS.
Blocking this option will do little to improve the security of devices belonging to power users (such as the Tasker userbase) but will massively inconvenience all of them.
A developer option to relax the check is required!
Blocking this option will do little to improve the security of devices belonging to power users (such as the Tasker userbase) but will massively inconvenience all of them.
A developer option to relax the check is required!
de...@gmail.com
There are apps that target old target SDK that even don't require Internet access (so no privacy concerns) such as calculators, old hardware controllers, etc..
Please leave a way to power users to still install them on their own phones, without ADB (which requires a PC). There's not only the Play Store!
Please leave a way to power users to still install them on their own phones, without ADB (which requires a PC). There's not only the Play Store!
pi...@gmail.com
Google looks very silly taking these permissions only to their own, inheritantly half-assed apps.
Android should be an open platform, the world doesn't need another apple.
All these permissions should be put into developer settings.
Android should be an open platform, the world doesn't need another apple.
All these permissions should be put into developer settings.
ma...@gmail.com
Please let people use their devices as they want.
si...@gmail.com
Please do not block users from installing older apps or apps that rely on lower APIs. At least give us the option similar to installing apps from unknown source.
I rely heavily on tasker on a day to day basis and implementing this will break many features of tasker that I rely on.
The one thing I loved about Android over IOS is the freedom, which is being slowly taken away with each release of Android versions. To the point where I'm starting to hold back on the updates for as long as possible.
I rely heavily on tasker on a day to day basis and implementing this will break many features of tasker that I rely on.
The one thing I loved about Android over IOS is the freedom, which is being slowly taken away with each release of Android versions. To the point where I'm starting to hold back on the updates for as long as possible.
42...@gmail.com
If you are going to break, restrict or remove things I own you need to pay out their initial costs.
Sick of this theft happening. Access must always remain.
Sick of this theft happening. Access must always remain.
le...@gmail.com
This has not been triaged properly: this is not a feature request, this is a regression - Google has gone out of its way to remove something to hinder users. This is a top-priority issue, and I fear this issue has been mislabeled to avoid the engineering team from ever getting to it ("feature request" is typically the lowest priority for any tech company ...)
ac...@gmail.com
This is a must have feature for my daily workflow which includes tasker automation.
I do understand locking down features from casual users for security, but the option to unblock for power users needs to be implemented as well.
I do understand locking down features from casual users for security, but the option to unblock for power users needs to be implemented as well.
an...@gmail.com
This is a regressive move. It can be the default but to cater to advanced users there should be an option to disable it. I hope the folks at Google would listen but I am not hopeful.
ac...@gmail.com
On Android 14 it's only for APK's that target lower than 23 but can still be installed via ADB: adb install --bypass-low-target-sdk-block FILENAME.apk
le...@gmail.com
FFS stop fucking over users.
ra...@gmail.com
Android without tasker makes no sense! Google, stop terrorizing with restrictions!
jo...@gmail.com
I need to be able to use apps with an override ability.
I use Android specifically because it's not Apple with an authoritarian dictatorship and helicopter-parenting.
Please allow us to use apps we need to use.
I use Android specifically because it's not Apple with an authoritarian dictatorship and helicopter-parenting.
Please allow us to use apps we need to use.
ni...@googlemail.com
Every customer should have the right to decide which app they want to use! The ability to disable the blocking is necessary and should be implemented as soon as possible!
da...@gmail.com
Why on earth isn't there an option to change this yet? Very frustrating to have the functionality I rely on taken away.
ad...@google.com
lb...@gmail.com
@93 That's not "fixed". That's adb command.
Please read what I wrote. I even wrote it in the title " offer a setting to unblock it".
lb...@gmail.com
@93 In fact I even mentioned the adb command here:
co...@gmail.com
I do not belong in this email group. Please remove me.
On Tue, Nov 26, 2024, 09:02 <buganizer-system@google.com> wrote:
On Tue, Nov 26, 2024, 09:02 <buganizer-system@google.com> wrote:
lb...@gmail.com
Requested again as it's not really "fixed":
Description
Please offer users a setting to disable this blocking. You can let it be blocked by default, but give users a choice if they want it, still.
Also offer API for APK installers to give the users a choice there about it.
And if none of these is accepted, at least put it in the developer options.
Many apps can be trusted even if they aren't updated anymore.