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[Deleted User] <[Deleted User]> #2
mo...@gmail.com <mo...@gmail.com> #3
mo...@google.com <mo...@google.com> #4
Best Regards,
Josh Moyer
Google Cloud Platform Support
wa...@gmail.com <wa...@gmail.com> #5
ya...@databiz.co.id <ya...@databiz.co.id> #6
st...@forgedelite.com <st...@forgedelite.com> #7
ga...@e-radical.ro <ga...@e-radical.ro> #8
At least a rough estimate like: 1 year, 6 months... after the last solar eclipse of 2015?
[Deleted User] <[Deleted User]> #9
dc...@skunkwerks.at <dc...@skunkwerks.at> #10
ti...@gmail.com <ti...@gmail.com> #11
I tried this, but it doesn't seem to work...
ja...@jperham.com <ja...@jperham.com> #12
[Deleted User] <[Deleted User]> #13
ba...@gmail.com <ba...@gmail.com> #14
This whole situation is understandable. The only issue is the lack of transparency from providers like Google. That said, it is very hard, because individual engineers in big corporations are not necessarily empowered to make statements about this sort of thing that aren't signed off by management, and management isn't necessarily inclined to spill what they see as secret technical details.
[Deleted User] <[Deleted User]> #15
ma...@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> #16
Should be built with the support for IPv6.
sa...@gmail.com <sa...@gmail.com> #17
ga...@e-radical.ro <ga...@e-radical.ro> #18
ga...@e-radical.ro <ga...@e-radical.ro> #19
On MySQL instances they bragged about the introduction of an IPv6 address for each instance. No words on the fact that the address is futile (as in VMs are not available) if you don't access the instance from the outside world!
ba...@gmail.com <ba...@gmail.com> #20
Google, if you are reading this, we understand this is hard, we just want some transparency here. Please don't turn into another Namecheap (e.g. they have been saying that they are working on DNSSEC for years when their upstream provider is actually the one blocking the issue).
This issue was ACKed (pun intended) by Google in October 14. This. Is an unreasonable turnaround time for an update.
ga...@e-radical.ro <ga...@e-radical.ro> #21
wi...@gmail.com <wi...@gmail.com> #22
m....@gmail.com <m....@gmail.com> #23
va...@motivity.ca <va...@motivity.ca> #24
oc...@gmail.com <oc...@gmail.com> #25
ld...@gmail.com <ld...@gmail.com> #26
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[Deleted User] <[Deleted User]> #28
et...@gmail.com <et...@gmail.com> #29
au...@gmail.com <au...@gmail.com> #30
know. thanks!
in...@gmail.com <in...@gmail.com> #31
ga...@e-radical.ro <ga...@e-radical.ro> #32
ni...@bitscraft.net <ni...@bitscraft.net> #33
Frankly speaking, I would not like to lose even a single customer connecting from IPv6 only devices. Eagerly Awaiting your response Google.
th...@gmail.com <th...@gmail.com> #34
I agree with everyone, please make amends with immediacy
ga...@e-radical.ro <ga...@e-radical.ro> #35
ni...@bitscraft.net <ni...@bitscraft.net> #36
With Barefoot network in the picture, the implementation of the security mechanisms should be even more easier to achieve on IPv6.
Even from purely business perspective, No matter how much of cost is invested in "Custom Made IPv4 Routers", it just makes "No Sense" to ignore IPv6.
Your call.
as...@siliconsea.net <as...@siliconsea.net> #37
ni...@bitscraft.net <ni...@bitscraft.net> #38
customers to tackle to, lets not burden them further. Google, please feel
free to bring ipv6 as & when desired. We All will keep waiting patiently.
Now, I would like to resume my meditation trance please. Please wake me up
(before you go go) once Google has implemented ipv6.
:-p
ze...@gmail.com <ze...@gmail.com> #39
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bi...@gmail.com <bi...@gmail.com> #41
[Deleted User] <[Deleted User]> #43
ad...@firebyte.com <ad...@firebyte.com> #44
wi...@saville.com <wi...@saville.com> #45
pa...@google.com <pa...@google.com> #46
As many people familiar with the history will know all too well, the timeline for IPv6 adoption industry-wide has stretched on for quite a long time. Despite years of efforts, worldwide adoption is still only about 14%, with US adoption the highest anywhere, at 29% (as reported by
Customer priorities have a very significant influence on how we prioritize our work overall. Considering all this input, and because we at Google are trying to help increase the pace of transition, we are still prioritizing it highly, along with many other large feature requests that customers do ask for a lot.
Several people have made comments speculating about how easy or difficult it might be for us to add IPv6 support, but I don’t believe that any Google employees have actually made statements about implementation details here. Supporting IPv6 throughout our global infrastructure is much more work than simply “figuring out” a few small items of networking settings. If it were that easy, we would have done it already. :) If you’ve built your own v6 plan before, you’ll have some taste of this: it requires testing and potentially modifications at every level of the software and hardware stack.
Despite the continued lag in industry adoption, Google believes in the importance of major providers leading the way. IPv6 is definitely a priority that we’re working on, but we aren’t prepared to announce a timeline yet. Thanks for your feedback, and please hang in there. Note, you can also track the status of this item on our UserVoice forum, here:
ar...@stutzen.me <ar...@stutzen.me> #48
When we submitted the iOS App to Apple App store they rejected it saying it is not compatible with ipV6 .
Now we are in very critical state like what needs to be done ? Move out of Compute Engine which is very tough after years of work.
Kindly let suggest as what has to be done ?
ta...@gmail.com <ta...@gmail.com> #49
ta...@gmail.com <ta...@gmail.com> #50
gu...@gmail.com <gu...@gmail.com> #51
You should also be able to try this setup from a mac by creating an IPv6 wifi network.
go...@wsigenesis.com <go...@wsigenesis.com> #52
t....@exowerk.com <t....@exowerk.com> #54
That just Google IPv6 does not even have on the Timeline.
Google was once known for supporting IPv6. One of the first providers which one have an IPv6 Public DNS Service.
Why should the "small" ISP offer IPv6 if even the major vendors like Google do not fully support it.
je...@ecadlabs.com <je...@ecadlabs.com> #55
Can you substantiate that IPv6 is available on Google Cloud Load Balancer? I can't find any indication of that, but would love to see it!
mm...@mikecb.org <mm...@mikecb.org> #56
mm...@mikecb.org <mm...@mikecb.org> #57
ja...@gmail.com <ja...@gmail.com> #58
19...@gmail.com <19...@gmail.com> #59
sf...@gmail.com <sf...@gmail.com> #60
[Deleted User] <[Deleted User]> #61
largest internet companies in the world does not support ipv6. Just got
tired of waiting.
On Thu, 23 Nov 2017, 21:43 , <buganizer-system@google.com> wrote:
*Adam Sentner*
*Senior Product Architect*
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jo...@gmail.com <jo...@gmail.com> #62
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dc...@skunkwerks.at <dc...@skunkwerks.at> #65
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iv...@gmail.com <iv...@gmail.com> #68
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da...@gmail.com <da...@gmail.com> #70
Your customers and your customers' customers are ashamed of their cloud choice.
an...@gmail.com <an...@gmail.com> #71
reference:
ad...@zerotier.com <ad...@zerotier.com> #72
jo...@eluv.io <jo...@eluv.io> #73
fl...@voxeet.com <fl...@voxeet.com> #74
Indeed, I need a wide range of UDP ports available from the outside wild world directly to some instances, without loadbalancer.
Ok for any alpha testing if necessary (I have a big bunch of production traffic - free users - that can afford a bad SLA).
ca...@ionetworks.com.au <ca...@ionetworks.com.au> #75
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md...@altaviasn.com <md...@altaviasn.com> #77
ow...@gmail.com <ow...@gmail.com> #78
We offer all our customers one free IPv6 address and need direct support for it due to the configuration of our systems
al...@googlemail.com <al...@googlemail.com> #79
ze...@gmail.com <ze...@gmail.com> #80
On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 2:46 AM <buganizer-system@google.com> wrote:
mi...@miyuru.lk <mi...@miyuru.lk> #81
At least provide a timeline or information regarding this or people will look elsewhere to host their projects.
al...@gmail.com <al...@gmail.com> #82
ze...@gmail.com <ze...@gmail.com> #83
AFAIK is free for ipv6) to go externally ipv6-only (ie. you don't need
a global ipv4 address) provided you're ok with only being able to
handle incoming ipv6/tcp (or http/https/ssl) - among other things this
means you can get in via ssh over tcp over ipv6. The setup is a bit
annoying though and non-trivial. AFAIK, you need an instance group,
etc. It's not as simple as saying point this ip:port to this port on
this vm. Of course you still use private ipv4 within your project,
but it's only public ipv4 which is being charged for, so that's fine.
Unfortunately there's no *easy* way to figure out the remote user
endpoint - you can of course enable the proxy protocol extension, but
most apps (like sshd) don't handle it by default. All that said
35$/year for an IP is super expensive - you can buy an IPv4 address
for life for less.
On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 5:24 AM <buganizer-system@google.com> wrote:
iv...@gmail.com <iv...@gmail.com> #84
Also you still will not have external connectivity on VMs without external IPs(at least on NAT). So Ipv6 absence requires you to have unwanted charges for Ipv4, just to have external connectivity.
lu...@googlemail.com <lu...@googlemail.com> #85
I've used the IPv6 offering in AWS and it's just as seamless as their IPv4 offering. With Google seemingly championing IPv6 adoption (why else would they host a tracker) it seems bizarre that this isn't available. Surely the GCP infrastructure is IPv6 capable‽ Somebody at GCP need to acknowledge this thread and provide some solid information, otherwise people will turn to their competitors (if they haven't already)!
ma...@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> #86
da...@gmail.com <da...@gmail.com> #87
Roadmap? Any info at all?
pc...@gmail.com <pc...@gmail.com> #88
de...@gmail.com <de...@gmail.com> #89
fi...@gmail.com <fi...@gmail.com> #90
hu...@gmail.com <hu...@gmail.com> #91
ge...@gmail.com <ge...@gmail.com> #92
It's not the first time that I have to select another cloud service provider that offers ipv6 because of this.
If you want to gain more market share this is for sure something to implement.
jo...@gmail.com <jo...@gmail.com> #93
ph...@gmail.com <ph...@gmail.com> #94
ze...@gmail.com <ze...@gmail.com> #95
The presence of the IPv6 tcp/ssl/http/https load balancer also suggests this - though of course it's just a stopgap measure.
The fact they're now charging more for IPv4 GCE addresses also suggests that they're probably running out of public IPv4 addresses (either for their cloud users or even possibly for themselves).
That said, you have to realize that IPv6 is most likely an absolutely massive undertaking.
At least that's been my experience with an IPv4 to IPv6 migration I've worked on.
It probably gets more and more complex as the size and age of the network and infrastructure increases.
It is well known that Google uses SDN - software defined networking - and that it's all in house - so presumably all that always running code has to be updated to support IPv6 - and this has to be done live without maintenance windows or outages across their entire network (when's the last time Google had a planned network outage for maintenance?). Similarly all backend databases storing ips, and firewall rules, and probably billing, security, monitoring and UI's would have to be updated.
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I've found this interesting cloud beta sdk documentation link:
mentioned at:
To quote:
--enable-private-ip-google-access
Enable/disable access to Google Cloud APIs from this subnet for instances without a public ip address.
--private-ipv6-google-access-type=PRIVATE_IPV6_GOOGLE_ACCESS_TYPE
The private IPv6 google access type for the VMs in this subnet. PRIVATE_IPV6_GOOGLE_ACCESS_TYPE must be one of: disable, enable-bidirectional-access, enable-outbound-vm-access
Which suggests something is happening, though I'm not exactly sure what...
It sounds like it's cloud api access over ipv6 from public ipv4 address-less VMs.
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So I took the plunge and I enabled it on a subnet with my GCE VM:
gcloud beta compute networks subnets update --private-ipv6-google-access-type=enable-outbound-vm-access --region=... ...
(not sure if you also need --enable-private-ip-google-access - I already had it on)
And I'm at least seeing RA's (tcpdump on my GCE VM):
42:01:0a:01:00:01 (oui Unknown) > 42:01:0a:01:00:02 (oui Unknown), ethertype IPv6 (0x86dd), length 110: (hlim 255, next-header ICMPv6 (58) payload length: 56) fe80::4001:aff:fe01:1 > ff02::1: [icmp6 sum ok] ICMP6, router advertisement, length 56
hop limit 0, Flags [managed], pref medium, router lifetime 0s, reachable time 0ms, retrans timer 0ms
source link-address option (1), length 8 (1): 42:01:0a:01:00:01
0x0000: 4201 0a01 0001
mtu option (5), length 8 (1): 1460
0x0000: 0000 0000 05b4
route info option (24), length 24 (3): 2001:4860:8040::/42, pref=medium, lifetime=90s
0x0000: 2a00 0000 005a 2001 4860 8040 0000 0000
0x0010: 0000 0000 0000
(note it claims to provide reachability to only a single /42 and not the full internet)
and then I ran 'dhclient -6 eth0' and I received a public ipv6 address:
# ip -6 addr show dev eth0
2: eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1460 qdisc fq_codel state UP group default qlen 1000
inet6 2600:2d0x:xxxx:xxx:a01:2::/128 scope global dynamic
valid_lft 86436sec preferred_lft 86376sec
inet6 fe80::4001:aff:fe01:2/64 scope link
valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
2600:2D00::/28
GOOGLE-CLOUD
*** The IP addresses under this Org-ID are in use by Google Cloud customers ***
I think the next step is 'ip -6 route add 2001:4860:8040::/42 via fe80::4001:aff:fe01:1 dev eth0' since my Linux kernel doesn't appear to be picking up the route from the RA by itself (not sure why).
I don't really know where to go from there, since I don't know of any ip addresses in that /42 subnet and I don't know what should or should not work...
ma...@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> #96
IPv6 is not a priority for Google this is what Google already write in this thread.
iv...@gmail.com <iv...@gmail.com> #97
Hope to see prefix delegation here in GCP, so we will be able to get at least /60 or /56 and assign /64s to docker/podman networks.
ze...@gmail.com <ze...@gmail.com> #98
Last one seems to be #46 / #47 from Nov 2016, and seems to talk about prioritizing it highly.
Following the link from #47 to
UPDATE: IPv6 load balancer endpoints are now GA. However, we continue to work on instance-level v6 addressing. Since I believe that at least some votes on this issue are for v6 all the way to the instance, I am leaving this issue open.
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2600:2d0x:xxxx:xxx:a01:2::/128 seems to embed the ipv4 address of the VM (10.1.0.2 ie. :a01:2:) in such a way that it looks like /96 per VM might possibly maybe be a thing.
I'd love to see /60 as well, but there might simply not be enough bits for that? They get a /28 from the registry... There's only 4 billion /60s in that, and that's probably nowhere near enough considering how many VMs they're likely to already be running (guessing millions?) and planning to be running (probably 10s or 100s of millions) -- and that they probably want some hierarchy for performance (you probably need at least a datacenter identifier in there) and/or operational sanity reasons.
[Deleted User] <[Deleted User]> #99
as many other users before me, I can't really understand why GCloud (being a IPv6 advocate and much older than AWS who has fully deployed that feature) is still at the queue of IPv6
It think it's on your roadmap, I just hope it doesn't get to us very late.
Kind regards
er...@gmail.com <er...@gmail.com> #100
[Deleted User] <[Deleted User]> #102
I think it is better to put a quote from
VMs are assigned an external IPv6 address using DHCPv6. The metadata server responds to the VM's DHCPv6 requests and sends the first IP address from the assigned /96 IP range in response. Applications can use any of the IP addresses in the /96 range to connect to the internet or other VMs.
iv...@gmail.com <iv...@gmail.com> #103
Regions supporting IPv6
IPv6 support for subnets and VM instances is available in the following regions:
asia-east1 asia-south1 europe-west2 us-west2
cl...@gmail.com <cl...@gmail.com> #104
I would argue that what's been implemented is going to meet a lot of people's needs but it still doesn't represent pervasive IPv6 support.
ze...@gmail.com <ze...@gmail.com> #105
cl...@gmail.com <cl...@gmail.com> #106
we...@cybelangel.com <we...@cybelangel.com> #107
pw...@greenpeace.org <pw...@greenpeace.org> #108
Is this why on a VM on google cloud, I am unable to ping Google's IPv6 public DNS server (
$ ping6 2001:4860:4860::8888
connect: Network is unreachable
ze...@gmail.com <ze...@gmail.com> #109
However, you might not be able to reach (incl. ping) Google itself over IPv6 (this includes among others Google's IPv6 public DNS servers)...
Last I checked Google itself wasn't (yet??) reachable from GCE ipv6 capable VMs...
mo...@google.com <mo...@google.com> #110
That seems like an unexpected state...
I don't expect this to be the correct behavior, I'll try some testing
today to verify.
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