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ha...@moota.com.c-049z5qhx.appstempdomain.goog
It's extremely frustrating that it's apparently now impossible on android 13 to write to data/obb without rooting devices. People hated this change in 11, hated it in 12, and now it's been done again. Please let us access the device we payed for. No one asked for this change.
nn...@google.com
@3 It got even worse, as there is a bug that installer apps seem not to be able to do it anymore:
https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/254445476
se...@gmail.com
Extremely disappointing that google censored the original issue on this with over 2000 stars.
nn...@google.com
Old issue was https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/196422354 and can't be accessed by the general public any more for some reason.
mi...@sesma.eu
Android/data No access to Debug File... Even as a Developer on a Non-Rooted Device. i just trying to make an App work again. but the Edits Need to Happen the Device even USB Debugging Prevents Write Access.. just Read...
if this Issue is not Resolved Soon. I will (I dont Know) but i paid over 1500.00 for a Device and i cant Access the Stuff i want.... and Articles that i used back A.11 Days are now Denied Access... KB196422354
Android 13 is a Joke if it Prevents People from Technical Experence from Doing what they want heck thats what the Developer Mode was For. now you have Bricked us again...
if this Issue is not Resolved Soon. I will (I dont Know) but i paid over 1500.00 for a Device and i cant Access the Stuff i want.... and Articles that i used back A.11 Days are now Denied Access... KB196422354
Android 13 is a Joke if it Prevents People from Technical Experence from Doing what they want heck thats what the Developer Mode was For. now you have Bricked us again...
ha...@moota.com.c-049z5qhx.appstempdomain.goog
WHYYYYY
nn...@google.com
So disappointing
ka...@live.com
I can only support this if there is a way to fake the directory path that the app sees. That is, I need to be able to trick Chinese apps so that they can't tell the difference between me giving them a subfolder and them forcing me to give them access to all my files. Otherwise, this may threaten my physical safety when I travel.
I am the author of the other issue. I faced extreme trauma when my Chinese family compelled and coerced me to install the WeChat app. At that time WeChat closed itself on launch if it was not given the storage permission and my family kept pressuring me. Unlike the free world, China does not respect the freedom against search and seizure. Chinese companies can be forced to hand over any data to the Chinese government. Other Chinese apps mentioned in other issues are DJI and Insta360. What would happen if WeChat scanned a protest photo with my geolocation?
Back then I had Lineage AppOps and Xposed and was able to somehow restrict the storage permission. Today, those don't exist anymore. In the future I may be relying on solely how SAM keeps those apps in check. I have root so I love this feature, and do not hate it. I would rather Android remove the storage feature like earlier iOS than have a foreign government see my photos.
There is an alternative solution that both I and the power users above would accept. That would be to give me an option to trick any foreign app into thinking it was given any specified folder. Everyone else can then grant their backup and file managers access to their whole storage.
ha...@moota.com.c-049z5qhx.appstempdomain.goog
Please allow me to use the device I paid for the way I want and have the option to bypass these security controls
am...@gmail.com
This is absurd, I cannot even use my SD Card fully. I cannot locate and move local save games. This is outrageous.
pa...@googlemail.com
This is indeed absolutely ridiculous. I'm done updating to future versions of android and will no longer be supporting Google
ja...@gmail.com
Yep. Anytime anyone asks me for phone recommends, I tell them to get an iphone. There is no way that I could say otherwise when google actively tries to make android worse in multiple different ways, and then censors bugs about it.
st...@gmail.com
Even basic operations such as transferring individual files to and from folders in /data/ are blocked. I cannot do it with ADB, MTP or AOSP. As of recently, I am not even able to view certain subfolders below the "com.XXXX/" level via MTP.
I am unable to restore data or bring certain files in from my previous phone. We all paid for our devices and are unable to use them as expected without rooting and voiding our warranties.
I am unable to restore data or bring certain files in from my previous phone. We all paid for our devices and are unable to use them as expected without rooting and voiding our warranties.
ke...@gmail.com
This is a problem for a wifi sync app for my music files in musicbee as they need the root of SD card or my device, why can't i just skip it ONCE?
fr...@justbit.it
Did Google or anyone find a solution to this problem
ra...@gmail.com
We need access Google
di...@gmail.com
If you want google to fix this nonsense you need to tell everyone you know with a google account to star this issue and interact in the comments. It's the only way they will do anything about it.
ar...@gmail.com
We need this fix, well, in reality we need a real solution than the joke of scoped storage band aid we got for "privacy concerns", it does more harm than good...
le...@gmail.com
Same thing. Can't access my SD card. How to elevate this issues for it to be resolved?
le...@gmail.com
This is absurd, Google we need this fixed immediately, I shouldn't have to root my phone to get access to a capabilities that I already had
ma...@gmail.com
Oh guys, you're so right. We need access to the devices we paid for and we should use them as we want. I have come across this situation recently and couldn't find any solution on the internet. I have a Chinese MIUI and have to install fonts. But the app that I want to use is not working properly because of denied acces to the folder that Android restricted. What is wrong with it. Please, let us use our devices the way we want, Google.
dr...@gmail.com
Don't worry we're gonna get everything figured out
de...@gmail.com
Please escalate this ..
If we as userrs are not even having an option to choose if we want to access data and obb folder, how is android being a user friendly OS ? The best part about android was freedom of users, which looks to be snatched.
Please do not make android, the next IOS.
If we as userrs are not even having an option to choose if we want to access data and obb folder, how is android being a user friendly OS ? The best part about android was freedom of users, which looks to be snatched.
Please do not make android, the next IOS.
[Deleted User] <[Deleted User]>
Google doesn't give a crap they will be iOS soon.
On Monday, January 23, 2023, <buganizer-system@google.com> wrote:
On Monday, January 23, 2023, <buganizer-system@google.com> wrote:
po...@gmail.com
Gargoyle has done some nasty and even criminal things in the past but perhaps this will wake up the world as to just how unethical, controlling and criminal an organization they have become.
I will not buy a device unless it can be unGargoyled.
This day has been coming for a long, long time as each version of Android© has gotten more and more restrictive with more privacy invasion and less freedom for the purchaser. Notice I didn't say owner?
I bought a LG v50 and v60 and made sure by checking on XDA that they could be rooted before I purchased them.
Good luck with getting Gargoyle to do anything for you and since the US government has been bought and paid for by corporate America many years ago you'll get no help from them.
I will not buy a device unless it can be unGargoyled.
This day has been coming for a long, long time as each version of Android© has gotten more and more restrictive with more privacy invasion and less freedom for the purchaser. Notice I didn't say owner?
I bought a LG v50 and v60 and made sure by checking on XDA that they could be rooted before I purchased them.
Good luck with getting Gargoyle to do anything for you and since the US government has been bought and paid for by corporate America many years ago you'll get no help from them.
ah...@gmail.com
GOOGLE USERS PROMPTED TO UPLOAD THEIR ENTIRE PERSONAL DATA TO SERVERS FOR SECURITY AND PROTECTION ALONG WITH OVER PERSONALIZATION AND PROFIT OFF OF ANY BIT OF INFO THEY CAN LEGALLY STEAL FROM YOU. AND IF YOU TRY TO SEE WHY YOU CANT HAVE ACCESS TO WHAT YOU RIGHTFULLY HAVE OWNED ITS YOURE ISSUE BECUASE YOU SIGNED UP HERE AND NOW YOU CANT DO ANYTHING. THANKS GOOGLE FOR INVADING PRIVACY AND GIVING THE USER A FUCKING BRICK THAT WATCHES US
an...@gmail.com
Just updated my phone from Android 11 to 12 and this is still an issue
an...@gmail.com
Google, please. Don't be an ass and fix this immediately.
iz...@gmail.com
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al...@gmail.com
Please google, dont make IOS, let make android ,fix this please
am...@gmail.com
Now even Microsoft Office is trying to access all my files. I get "To browse Office files, photos, and media, you'll need to allow access to all files in Settings." This also applies to MS Teams. Discord is an example of an app that respects my privacy and keeps working when sharing photos without file access. Honestly, I believe that the Android's file restrictions are not strong enough.
I refuse to give any company access to my files. I don't give Google Drive files access, and it keeps on working. But when I don't give Microsoft or Tencent access to my files, their apps refuse to work.
Again, I will reiterate the solution that will satisfy everyone. For the non-rooted people in this thread that want to grant their open-source apps access to all their files, please let them. But for privacy-minded people like me, please do that in addition to adding a feature that allows us to lie and tell third-party apps that they have full access even without actually granting them access.
pa...@googlemail.com
How are we supposed to implement file browsers without this?
pa...@googlemail.com
So annoying these restrictions. I want complete access to my not adopted sdcard. It's mine
[Deleted User] <[Deleted User]>
This is complete buffoonery. I can't use the photo app that came on my phone. Or a file manager.
nn...@google.com
ma...@gmail.com
I'm using MusicBee Wifi Sync. Since updating to Android 13, I cannot choose a folder on my SD card to sync my music to........musicbee wifi sync "you must select the sd card root folder and not one of it's subfolder"......
But the button is greyed out when I am in the root folder.
I feel like I'm going around in circles. It might be because I am going around in circles.
Please let me select whatever folder on the SD card that I paid for with my own sheckles and groats.....in a phone that I paid for with my own sheckles and groats.
That would be fantastic. Thanks so much.
But the button is greyed out when I am in the root folder.
I feel like I'm going around in circles. It might be because I am going around in circles.
Please let me select whatever folder on the SD card that I paid for with my own sheckles and groats.....in a phone that I paid for with my own sheckles and groats.
That would be fantastic. Thanks so much.
su...@gmail.com
This sucks, I like Android because it gives you more options and I think as long as you accept the risks then let me do what I want with my device
[Deleted User] <[Deleted User]>
Fucking ridiculous, let me use my phone
ar...@gmail.com
What the hell is the point of creating a system that can be accessed through a pc but not the phone itself?
What kind of redundancy is that?
Please just give us an option to just do the shit we want to do to our phones.
What kind of redundancy is that?
Please just give us an option to just do the shit we want to do to our phones.
nh...@gmail.com
This is bullshit, i paid for the phone, i am the one responsible for it, i am a fucking adult, and i dont need to be "protected", you dont decide for me and you fucking never will, and neither for my device, remove this change that brings nothing useful on anyone's life, you are getting worse than IOS at this point, will probably move there if necessary just to give my middle finger to android if this doesn't change, you were the option of freedom of choice, now you are going for the same path as your rival? Dont shoot yourself in the foot idiots.
ac...@gmail.com
I agree, this makes no sense.
I can assume my own risk.
Let me deal with it.
I can assume my own risk.
Let me deal with it.
[Deleted User] <[Deleted User]>
Why? Just why? People who thougt it was a good idea didnt see the backlash coming?
Why are you trying to make andriod into iOS. Is this some kind of money pursuit, going on the path set by your rival?
You better revert the change, before you lose more than you planned to gain...
Why are you trying to make andriod into iOS. Is this some kind of money pursuit, going on the path set by your rival?
You better revert the change, before you lose more than you planned to gain...
sc...@gmail.com
Who thought of this and said "Let's take control of our user's devices, to be like Apple"? I really want to look this person in the eyes and try to understand why did you do something like this.
With each update like this you destroy the very core of Android, the very thing that made it so much better than other competitors - freedom! With more freedom comes more responsibility and dangers, but that's to be expected. We are not your kids, stop doing this and give us ability to use our devices normally again.
With each update like this you destroy the very core of Android, the very thing that made it so much better than other competitors - freedom! With more freedom comes more responsibility and dangers, but that's to be expected. We are not your kids, stop doing this and give us ability to use our devices normally again.
pa...@googlemail.com
Dissapointing.
hu...@gmail.com
It's really getting out of hand, now I have to root all my company's android 11 devices to gain access to the data/ and obb/ folders.
ph...@nexus-informatik.ch
:( I'm not angry, just disappointed...
pa...@googlemail.com
fix this.
za...@gmail.com
I used LG G7 with android 10 and only now bought a replacement, S23 Ultra 1TB with android 13. I bought a damn 1TB version without even checking about these bs new restrictions because I trusted... NEVER AGAIN. Will be ditching this brick. No point in choosing android over iOS for me now especially when actual security and biometrics were always on another level there.
di...@gmail.com
Crap, I'm so disappointed (((((
ch...@gmail.com
Android 14 is making a change that is related to this.
With that coming in Android 14, "To protect your privacy choose another folder" shouldn't be necessary anymore. We just need on top of that, a Google Play policy to make sure app developers can't force users to allow access to all of their photos. With that, assuming the privacy protections are still there, it would be indeed marginally more convenient if I could move obbs and other files in and out of the /sdcard/Android folder.
gi...@dtv-consulting.fr
So you can't provide anything close to resembling apple's full phone backup and now you're making it even more difficult to backup individual apps. Enjoy your six figure salaries, I hope it helps you sleep at night.
fo...@d.umn.edu
Bought an android 13 phone yesterday and gonna return it today because I can't access Android and OBB folders. Useless phone for me.
al...@gmail.com
Sorry, we need more revenue in the coming recession so we will be taking away as much as we can to get you to pay for our cloud services.
-Signed Sundar Pichai
-Signed Sundar Pichai
na...@gmail.com
Why is this still a thing? I'm just trying to backup my data.... You really want me to buy an iPhone instead of a Pixel next time don't you?
[Deleted User] <[Deleted User]>
"to protect your privacy", please root your phone.
Ok, done. Thanks, big brother.
Ok, done. Thanks, big brother.
ro...@gmail.com
Playing with trying to automize some file moving with Android app Tasker, but of course I need to grant the permission to access SD cards' Pictures folder, which I cannot do because the Android doesn't allow me to click the Use this folder.
dr...@gmail.com
Just create another folder called data, then when it ask for obb create that too. That will get round it
dc...@gmail.com
I am shocked at the rudimentary state of full device backup'/restore on Android. Please tell your Product Managers to spend their time fixing that and not neutering file management applications.
fa...@abidos.com.tr
I guess here I am again with actual impact instead of gripes. Because of this scoped storage nonsense, today I couldn't migrate my Podcasts feed to a new Podcasts app I downloaded. App 1 lets me exports my feeds, unfortunately it defaults to a folder under /Android/data/podcast.app/ . That's supremely unhelpful since in previous versions of Android, I'd grant permissions in my file manager app to /Android/data AND JUST COPY THE FILE.
Please explain how I can get that file. You can't assume that every app developer is going to buy in 100% to "backup everything to X cloud service".
Please explain how I can get that file. You can't assume that every app developer is going to buy in 100% to "backup everything to X cloud service".
ni...@googlemail.com
This was the biggest selling point for me for Android phones as it didn't lock down the file system unnecessarily like iOS did. My as well switch to Apple if you keep this change without allowing a method to disable it for power users.
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java.lang.SecurityException: No permission to write APN settings:
Neither user 10044 nor current process has android.permission.WRITE_APN_SETTINGS.
Of course, WRITE_APN_SETTINGS permission is in te manifest. In fact the same code runs on every previous android version.
There is no reference in the ICS release notes about this permission.