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da...@gmail.com <da...@gmail.com> #2
Correction: I meant mysid/toro, not yakju, in the subject line. But this affects yakju, as well.
da...@gmail.com <da...@gmail.com> #3
I want this.
st...@gmail.com <st...@gmail.com> #4
I wan't this too! And I want't all Android 4.1+ devices to have it, not only the Nexus.
ma...@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> #7
I would love to see BT4 support. Seems to be the only other option to ANT+ when it comes to fitness sensors.
bh...@gmail.com <bh...@gmail.com> #8
Why is this considered an enhancement? The fact that Android doesn't support the latest standards and is behind iOS will run developers to iOS. Unfortunately my company cannot wait for Google to include this "enhancement" in their OS and with great sadness we are moving to iOS.
BLE is not a nice to have, it's the next big thing in short range networking.
BLE is not a nice to have, it's the next big thing in short range networking.
ma...@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> #9
@tomer...
I don't think it fair to say "Android doesn't support the latest standards." The fact that both ICS and Jelly Bean fully support BT4.0, which includes BLE, is well-documented. Other ICS devices like the One X and the Galaxy SIII support BLE. It is just the Nexus that is crippled in this regard, with a compatible stack but no driver support.
I don't think it fair to say "Android doesn't support the latest standards." The fact that both ICS and Jelly Bean fully support BT4.0, which includes BLE, is well-documented. Other ICS devices like the One X and the Galaxy SIII support BLE. It is just the Nexus that is crippled in this regard, with a compatible stack but no driver support.
ah...@gmail.com <ah...@gmail.com> #10
@jdavidmo...
So what you say is that it's up to the phone manufacturer to supply a driver? And this is why the S3 and Motorola RAZR has this support?
How come it's so har to supply a driver for this? There aren't that many different BT chipsets around...
So what you say is that it's up to the phone manufacturer to supply a driver? And this is why the S3 and Motorola RAZR has this support?
How come it's so har to supply a driver for this? There aren't that many different BT chipsets around...
[Deleted User] <[Deleted User]> #11
Well, I said driver, but I don't know if that's the case. I don't know who is responsible for it in this instance. It could be Google, Samsung, or Broadcom for all I know; my point is that the chip and ICS/JB support BT 4.0, so the Nexus should have it. It is not that Android doesn't support BT4 or BLE; it is just this phone for some reason.
According to iFixIt, the Nexus contains a "Samsung SWB-B42 BT 4.0 Dual Band Wlan FM Tx/Rx. Chipworks says the module is actually manufactured by Murata, and houses a Broadcom BCM4330 die inside."
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Samsung-Galaxy-Nexus-Teardown/7182/2#s30574
If it is the BCM4330, it supports BLE:http://www.murata-ws.com/wi-fi.htm
According to iFixIt, the Nexus contains a "Samsung SWB-B42 BT 4.0 Dual Band Wlan FM Tx/Rx. Chipworks says the module is actually manufactured by Murata, and houses a Broadcom BCM4330 die inside."
If it is the BCM4330, it supports BLE:
[Deleted User] <[Deleted User]> #12
Sorry, but I disagree with the statement that Android supports BLE. There's no API for GATT, no way to receive advertisement data, no way to control the device's role, basically no support for any of the new features introduced with BLE. That's why Motorola and Broadcom came up with their own (very limited) BLE stacks for Android. There may be some support down under at the BlueZ level but if there's no framework support and no API it cannot reasonably be considered as supported.
an...@howardb.com <an...@howardb.com> #13
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ia...@gmail.com <ia...@gmail.com> #14
i'd love to see my gnex with Low Energy profile in BT 4.0.
an...@howardb.com <an...@howardb.com> #15
please add this!
wo...@gmail.com <wo...@gmail.com> #16
* Can't develop BLE apps.
* Existing Android phones (particular make/model) that supports BLE have different API(s).
* From app developer perspective, the landscape is fragmented.
Requesting to support BLE officially in AOSP (both GATT client and GATT server).
* Existing Android phones (particular make/model) that supports BLE have different API(s).
* From app developer perspective, the landscape is fragmented.
Requesting to support BLE officially in AOSP (both GATT client and GATT server).
wo...@gmail.com <wo...@gmail.com> #17
as a google flagship phone, we deserve bluetooth 4.0
wo...@gmail.com <wo...@gmail.com> #18
I would love to use it with many of the BT 4.0 smartwatches coming out.
di...@gmail.com <di...@gmail.com> #19
This is really an essential feature. If android is not responding to this feature request our company will shift our app development to iOS. Can we at least get an estimate on when it will be available?
ev...@gmail.com <ev...@gmail.com> #20
iOS provides a very flexible framework to work on BLE. We hacked the code for testing the extent of support and were happy that it only needs android app framework support. Bluez support is all there. But without knowing any time limit on when to expect official support we have only iOS to work on right now.
en...@gmail.com <en...@gmail.com> #21
Bluetooth Smart / Low Energy has become a mandatory feature (Smartphone will be the PAN center for all those devices which are coming very soon). Luckely the HW is prepared. Android needs to enable this feature (fast to prevent fragmentation). I can't wait! (so i already start). @Google/BT-BLE suppliers, please come with some indications and make us happy!
ja...@gmail.com <ja...@gmail.com> #22
Us developers WANT to design BLE products for the Nexus. The hardware is there Google, please get your software together!
ma...@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> #23
Ditto...there are two 3rd party APIs that are needed currently:
https://developer.motorola.com/docs/bluetooth-low-energy-api/
http://code.google.com/p/broadcom-ble/
And to make it worse, 3rd parties sometimes don't include the required shared library like the bestselling Samsung Galaxy S3!
http://innovator.samsungmobile.com/bbs/discussion/view.do?boardId=1132&boardName=AndroidBoard&messageId=157757&messageNumber=&messageCategoryId=4&startId=zzzzz~&startPage=1&curPage=1&rowsPerPage=30&searchType=TITLE&searchText=&searchDays=0&searchTitleFlag=false&searchContentsFlag=false&searchRegisterNicknameFlag=false&lastPageFlag=&categoryId=800&parentCategoryId=4&platformId=1&selectOrder=REGISTER_DATE&selectOrderDirection=DESC&searchParameters=/bbs/discussion/thread.list.do?listLines=30|searchType=title|curPage=1|selectOrder=REGISTER_DATE|selectOrderDirection=DESC|messageCategoryId=4|&nacode=&listLines=30&searchTextForm=&searchTypeForm=TITLE
And to make it worse, 3rd parties sometimes don't include the required shared library like the bestselling Samsung Galaxy S3!
dm...@gmail.com <dm...@gmail.com> #25
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hb...@gmail.com <hb...@gmail.com> #26
Seconded! My Polar H7 is waiting for it!
ma...@mautibla.com <ma...@mautibla.com> #27
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[Deleted User] <[Deleted User]> #28
we really need this feature to develop many interesting apps,and service.
dm...@gmail.com <dm...@gmail.com> #29
Same with me.. The cookoo watch should be coming within the next month.. I really wanted to be able to use my gnex with it...
ma...@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> #30
i've an alpha coming too which needs this!
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so...@gmail.com <so...@gmail.com> #33
Bluetooth 4 support in Jelly Bean would be nice.
tr...@gmail.com <tr...@gmail.com> #34
We already have the hardware. Want to use it with Android.
al...@android.com <al...@android.com> #35
Come on Android/Samsung, we need all BLE. I'm currently working on a project where I have to connect with the Texas Ins. cc2540. Come on...stop smoking!!!!
vi...@gmail.com <vi...@gmail.com> #36
Come on Sammy/Google. Please!! It seems you just want to make products good enough. We the people are shooting for great. Why have the hardware there, but not make use of it?
al...@android.com <al...@android.com> #37
Has Google acknowledged this post yet? Just let us know whether we will need a new phone or not.
sh...@gmail.com <sh...@gmail.com> #38
You do not need a new phone...some high end phones already come with Bluetooth 4 which includes BLE. We need official SDK support.
ch...@gmail.com <ch...@gmail.com> #39
No acknowledgement yet from Google. This issue despite ~200 stars does not yet have an owner.
It matters not whether individual manufacturers include a proprietary BLE API with their android skin - this is just fragmentation and puts developers off producing Apps as they have to write code for every new API that comes along.
A standardized API within the stock Android SDK is the only way make developing an App to use BLE a realistic undertaking for all but the biggest developers or those subsidised by a manufacturer.
One other thing. Please stop the "I too am interested in this issue" posts. If you want to support this, star it. That is all you need to do to raise the profile of the issue. Adding a comment simply emails ~200 people who already know about it.
It matters not whether individual manufacturers include a proprietary BLE API with their android skin - this is just fragmentation and puts developers off producing Apps as they have to write code for every new API that comes along.
A standardized API within the stock Android SDK is the only way make developing an App to use BLE a realistic undertaking for all but the biggest developers or those subsidised by a manufacturer.
One other thing. Please stop the "I too am interested in this issue" posts. If you want to support this, star it. That is all you need to do to raise the profile of the issue. Adding a comment simply emails ~200 people who already know about it.
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sa...@gmail.com <sa...@gmail.com> #40
Found this: https://github.com/android-btle/framework It might be useful. I'm considering buying a Galaxy Nexus and a matching BLE watch in a near future. I hope it'll work in the low-energy mode.
le...@gmail.com <le...@gmail.com> #41
Hard to believe this. I just got a Galaxy NOTE II partly because it claims BT 4.0 compatibility. Now I have to find out I cant use the BT device because there is NO APP ON ANDROID because there's NO API to WRITE the APP in this "bleeding edge" Android version (4.1.1).
Calling this an "Enhancement" is quite a shame too, after all it's the OS having to catch up with fully specified and standardized hardware.
6 months for a key connectivity feature API missing...
Way to disappoint, Google.
Calling this an "Enhancement" is quite a shame too, after all it's the OS having to catch up with fully specified and standardized hardware.
6 months for a key connectivity feature API missing...
Way to disappoint, Google.
is...@gmail.com <is...@gmail.com> #42
Google is ignoring thousands of developers and the big promise of a bright Android ecosystem future.
Even Apple, the most closed and totalitarianism company ever has the damn Bluetooth 4 BLE working partially. I have application on (the terrible) iOS using it. And Android is neglecting this huge potencial, market and already available tool and hardware.
There are no like to comments, but let's start putting pressure.
Google MUST ADD support to Bluetooth 4 BLE. Develpers can't accept that hardware already exists without support to it.
I'm in a long time campaign to counter word of mouth everything in iOS and it's damned MFi spec. I've been converting people to Android only to harm and hurt, in my (utterly limited) capacity, Apple. Now there comes Android with the same kind of problems?
We also need WIFI direct and WIFI AdHoc connections supported across devices.
Tags: Bluetooth Low Energy, Bluetooth Low Power, Wibree successor, Bluetooth 4
Even Apple, the most closed and totalitarianism company ever has the damn Bluetooth 4 BLE working partially. I have application on (the terrible) iOS using it. And Android is neglecting this huge potencial, market and already available tool and hardware.
There are no like to comments, but let's start putting pressure.
Google MUST ADD support to Bluetooth 4 BLE. Develpers can't accept that hardware already exists without support to it.
I'm in a long time campaign to counter word of mouth everything in iOS and it's damned MFi spec. I've been converting people to Android only to harm and hurt, in my (utterly limited) capacity, Apple. Now there comes Android with the same kind of problems?
We also need WIFI direct and WIFI AdHoc connections supported across devices.
Tags: Bluetooth Low Energy, Bluetooth Low Power, Wibree successor, Bluetooth 4
sa...@google.com <sa...@google.com> #43
Did google announce if Android 4.2 will support BT 4 BLE? I believe they announced BT 4 in 4.2, but I never saw anything regarding the low power profile.
I have high hopes that next Monday we will all be pleasantly surprised to see full support of BT 4 in android 4.2!
I have high hopes that next Monday we will all be pleasantly surprised to see full support of BT 4 in android 4.2!
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