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ad...@google.com <ad...@google.com> #4
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za...@gmail.com <za...@gmail.com> #5
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ad...@google.com <ad...@google.com> #6
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ja...@gmail.com <ja...@gmail.com> #7
The above screenshots are not relevant to the issue. Could you please share another screenshots?
ad...@google.com <ad...@google.com> #8
mo...@gmail.com <mo...@gmail.com> #9
We have passed this to the development team and will update this issue with more information as it becomes available.
ja...@gmail.com <ja...@gmail.com> #10
ch...@gmail.com <ch...@gmail.com> #11
We only enable this page on Pixel 8a and beyond, so this is WAI(Working as Intended)
be...@gmail.com <be...@gmail.com> #12
ky...@gmail.com <ky...@gmail.com> #13
ec...@gmail.com <ec...@gmail.com> #14
Please re-evaluate the removal of this feature.
It's a very useful feature, and it's an AWFUL practice to say the least to add a feature with the QPR1 update, announce the feature as one of the highlights of the OS release, and then remove it in QPR2.
No reason why it should only be available on Pixel 8a and newer devices.
ch...@gmail.com <ch...@gmail.com> #15
We only enable this page on Pixel 8a and beyond
So, just to be clear, this page -- which is working perfectly fine as is and actually brings considerable value to those who ideally want to keep their phones for more than 1 year -- is being removed for no apparent reason other than "because we feel your old device doesn't deserve this feature?"
I didn't know the Pixel 8A and other phones had some special hardware capability that allows it to get this feature -- a feature that has been working perfectly fine for the past 3 months on older devices with Android 14.
Perhaps, it would benefits everyone here if the developers were a bit more transparent on this.
ja...@gmail.com <ja...@gmail.com> #16
ad...@google.com <ad...@google.com> #17
It's mind-boggling that a feature, which worked perfectly fine for months, is suddenly considered a luxury exclusive to newer devices. Is this some kind of twisted tech elitism? Older phones don't deserve basic functionality?
The comments from other users echo my sentiments – this move is a slap in the face to those who have been loyal to your brand. Announcing a feature as a QPR1 update highlight and then stripping it away in QPR2 for no apparent reason is nothing short of incompetence. Your lack of transparency on why this decision was made is unacceptable. Users deserve more than a dismissive "WAI" response. Provide a valid explanation for this blatant disregard for user experience on older models.
be...@gmail.com <be...@gmail.com> #18
ch...@gmail.com <ch...@gmail.com> #19
Can this be re-evaluated and if escalated please? You know...just "Don't be evil"
jg...@gmail.com <jg...@gmail.com> #20
am...@gmail.com <am...@gmail.com> #21
Plus 1
is...@gmail.com <is...@gmail.com> #22
ni...@gmail.com <ni...@gmail.com> #23
ka...@gmail.com <ka...@gmail.com> #24
ro...@gmail.com <ro...@gmail.com> #25
I am glad it got "Assigned" and marked as "Bug"!
ro...@gmail.com <ro...@gmail.com> #26
You are kidding me that this was intentionally removed and will now be only available for the Pixel 8a and beyond?
Pixel 8 Pro user here who loved this feature...
Please revert your change!
ni...@gmail.com <ni...@gmail.com> #27
br...@gmail.com <br...@gmail.com> #28
go...@gmail.com <go...@gmail.com> #29
Imagine buying Google's most expensive phone and then seeing software features locked to the budget model of the exact same series of phone. Definitely going to heavily reconsider Google products in the future if this is the way Google is going to approach basic software features.
si...@gmail.com <si...@gmail.com> #30
ad...@google.com <ad...@google.com> #31
be...@gmail.com <be...@gmail.com> #32
Definitely going to heavily reconsider Google products in the future if this is the way Google is going to approach basic software features.
+1
You really should reconsider how you treat your customers using your phones or your services in general. The only reason I am not using iPhone yet is that I hate their walled garden policy even more, but each and every case of your corporate incompetence really starts to make me think that walled garden might not be as bad as this. My Pixel 6a is great, but it has its issues (dual SIM calls dropping – luckily solved by RMA, inability to tap to wake from time to time, an Android bug known since 2018, I cannot remove obsolete devices from Google Play, reported for many years too, inability to use certain features like Family Link or Google Play rating as a Workspace user etc.).
I love receiving new Android a few hours after it's announced, but maybe it's just not worth it.
Pls do the right thing and bring this one feature back!
ma...@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> #33
ka...@gmail.com <ka...@gmail.com> #34
If it wasn't bad enough how buggy this phone is, now you remove features that were a selling point in the first place?
za...@gmail.com <za...@gmail.com> #35
Imagine promising 7 years of OS updates and only 2 year old devices getting pretty much nothing new in QPR's and also getting treated like this. Great job Google.
mo...@gmail.com <mo...@gmail.com> #36
co...@gmail.com <co...@gmail.com> #37
be...@gmail.com <be...@gmail.com> #38
To respond to a commenter:
now you remove features that were a selling point in the first place?
Just to be clear, a feature like this shouldn't even be called a "selling point." This is a feature that is widely available on other Android and Apple devices, and there are many use cases.
Some examples:
- if you buy a refurbished smartphone, being able to see the battery health information is important since it tells you if your battery is too old or needs to be replaced (in which case you can ask for a warranty exchange). If I buy a refurbished phone, I expect the battery to be at least somewhat usable. If the battery only has 60% estimated capacity, I would get that returned ASAP.
- although not as significant of a reason, if you want to keep my phone for more than 1 year, being able to see your phone's battery health is important because you can decide when the phone's battery should be replaced.
There's no reason why this feature should be limited to the "Pixel 8a and beyond." If you create a full bug report (which can be done through Developer Options), or you use an app that can get ADB access (e.g., aBattery and Shizuku), or you use ADB directly, you can easily get these numbers (battery cycle, estimated capacity remaining, etc.). I'm able to do this on a Pixel 8 Pro (a device that's only 6 months old) and a Pixel 4A (which is stuck on Android 13 because Google no longer supports it). So, in other words, the numbers are clearly there, and they're clearly available.
I could talk more about how this behavior just shows that Google is becoming more anti-consumerism, but I digress.
I do hope that Google changes course and makes battery health information available to all devices with Android 14. Seeing that this bug report has been reassigned, reopened, and labeled as a bug does give me some hope. We'll see what happens in the next feature drop.
ka...@gmail.com <ka...@gmail.com> #39
ro...@gmail.com <ro...@gmail.com> #40
Dear Google Devs, please bring this feature back.
cl...@gmail.com <cl...@gmail.com> #41
no...@gmail.com <no...@gmail.com> #42
ro...@gmail.com <ro...@gmail.com> #43
And Pixel 8 Pro has been promised 7 years of OS update and now they are starting to remove features bits by bits...
Is this another way to stop user of being aware of their battery is degraded and force user to replace phone yearly or every 2 years?
So much of "eco-friendly".
Dear Rick Osterloh, are you aware of this? lol...
ra...@gmail.com <ra...@gmail.com> #44
The feedback has been passed on to the product team for consideration.
ma...@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> #45
Very poor decision. Google should consider changing marketing to "Your Pixel is getting massively worse with time - Pixel Drops". In either case I think investing any money in hardware made by Google should be reconsidered by users.
pe...@gmail.com <pe...@gmail.com> #46
Wow, you closed this issue again? I had the battery info on my Pixel 6a, you removed it and stated that it will be available on Pixel 8a and beyond. I now have the Pixel 8A and there is still no battery info. Please re-open this issue and fix it.
ph...@gmail.com <ph...@gmail.com> #47
Oh, sorry, I have the info on my Pixel 8a, was checking the wrong Settings page. :-) Still sad you removed from older Pixels which already had this, there is no reason why you should do so.
za...@gmail.com <za...@gmail.com> #48
ri...@gmail.com <ri...@gmail.com> #49
I was waiting to upgrade to a Pixel 6 in October, since no Google devices seem to be available for sale in the US now, looks like I am headed back to Motorola.
lo...@gmail.com <lo...@gmail.com> #50
di...@gmail.com <di...@gmail.com> #51
gl...@gmail.com <gl...@gmail.com> #52
be...@gmail.com <be...@gmail.com> #53
For the very first time I´m really considering buying an Iphone as I just want a great phone which lasts longer than 3 damn years.
This s**t is just unbelievable!
Greetz from Germany
ka...@gmail.com <ka...@gmail.com> #54
It seems to me that this should be elevated to a higher priority. This isn't just a glitch, it's destroying customer's phones.
ro...@gmail.com <ro...@gmail.com> #55
th...@gmail.com <th...@gmail.com> #56
pb...@gmail.com <pb...@gmail.com> #57
be...@gmail.com <be...@gmail.com> #58
I don't want a bigger phone. I miss my iPhone 3gs size, but not Apple.
co...@gmail.com <co...@gmail.com> #59
st...@gmail.com <st...@gmail.com> #60
da...@hotmail.com <da...@hotmail.com> #61
to...@gmail.com <to...@gmail.com> #62
:-(
ja...@gmail.com <ja...@gmail.com> #63
Hopefully this one won't brick, no more beta for me.
ph...@gmail.com <ph...@gmail.com> #64
be...@gmail.com <be...@gmail.com> #65
Currently in chat with Google about this. They are basically telling me that they can brick our phones with to repercussion.
94...@gmail.com <94...@gmail.com> #66
sh...@gmail.com <sh...@gmail.com> #67
Infuriating to say the least
er...@gmail.com <er...@gmail.com> #68
Came here from this thread:
ti...@gmail.com <ti...@gmail.com> #69
an...@jorgensenfamily.us <an...@jorgensenfamily.us> #70
Worth mentioning that uBreakiFix does not have the tools to recover these, because Google hasn't provided them anything either.
Are there enough of us for a class action lawsuit maybe? I know mine was bricked by an OTA, and it looked like a lot of people are seeing exactly the same thing.
ks...@gmail.com <ks...@gmail.com> #71
Google, I know you're a faceless corporate machine, but please respond in some manner.
na...@gmail.com <na...@gmail.com> #72
oz...@gmail.com <oz...@gmail.com> #73
Left it drain, then tried the power+down as recommended. Same outcome. Phone appears to have corrupted bootloads as suggested by others in thread.
Will contact Google support for options.
ke...@gmail.com <ke...@gmail.com> #74
oz...@gmail.com <oz...@gmail.com> #75
I can only guess there's orders of magnitude more people with the issue that don't come to the issue tracker and just think their phone is plain dead.
pe...@gmail.com <pe...@gmail.com> #76
Woke up to black screen. Plug into PC and get QUSB_BULK_CID device id in Windows Device Manager,
oz...@gmail.com <oz...@gmail.com> #77
ja...@gmail.com <ja...@gmail.com> #78
jd...@gmail.com <jd...@gmail.com> #79
ci...@gmail.com <ci...@gmail.com> #80
me...@gmail.com <me...@gmail.com> #81
co...@gmail.com <co...@gmail.com> #82
ke...@gmail.com <ke...@gmail.com> #83
jh...@gmail.com <jh...@gmail.com> #84
er...@gmail.com <er...@gmail.com> #85
I have contacted Google Support and have basically run into a dead end with them claiming it to be a hardware issue that would need to be repaired at my own cost.
Based on this link it appears Google introduced a fix for an issue causing this problem. It would seem that fix was either reverted or a new issue with similar results has been introduced.
Thanks for the advice to star the topic I have done so.
ja...@gmail.com <ja...@gmail.com> #86
I also want to mention that, after a lot of emails and refering to this bug, Google support did offer me a free RMA even while my warranty was expired.
I just hope my refurbished pixel 3 will last long enough and not have this same issue.
ks...@gmail.com <ks...@gmail.com> #87
There are currently mixed reports as to whether this issue would be fixed for free or not. I suspect it is a roulette as to what support rep you talk to. Also not clear if the RMA would result in data loss or not.
ja...@gmail.com <ja...@gmail.com> #88
oz...@gmail.com <oz...@gmail.com> #89
For the Google staff looking - is it worth creating a second tracking issue for Android 11, which seems to be where most people on this thread are finding the issue, or are you happy to just use this ticket for both the 12 beta and 11 problem?
ya...@gmail.com <ya...@gmail.com> #90
da...@gmail.com <da...@gmail.com> #91
su...@gmail.com <su...@gmail.com> #92
ma...@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> #93
ky...@gmail.com <ky...@gmail.com> #94
ky...@gmail.com <ky...@gmail.com> #95
da...@gmail.com <da...@gmail.com> #96
la...@gmail.com <la...@gmail.com> #97
Same thing as others... woke up in the morning to the same corruption error. I was able to do a factory reset and bring it back to life. But it sucked since I was on vacation away from wifi. I had to drive to town to get good internet to update my phone apps, etc.
ki...@gmail.com <ki...@gmail.com> #98
Pixel USB_BULK_CID402_S:D1F6DE38
happened about a month ago and moved to another phone, just to find out that it's caused by an google issue not the phone issue.
How do i get a replacement phone !!!
ec...@gmail.com <ec...@gmail.com> #99
"...woke up in the morning to the same corruption error. I was able to do a factory reset and bring it back to life..."
Then you didn't have the same issue. Factory reset is not possible with the issue described by everyone here.
to...@gmail.com <to...@gmail.com> #100
I had this phone since launch and wasn't planning on upgrading it, still a solid phone for my use.
un...@gmail.com <un...@gmail.com> #101
jb...@gmail.com <jb...@gmail.com> #102
ch...@gmail.com <ch...@gmail.com> #103
bi...@gmail.com <bi...@gmail.com> #104
GOOGLE - where are you? You destroyed over 100 phones with your update, only counting those reporting in this thread. We know this is much larger.
CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT
ti...@gmail.com <ti...@gmail.com> #105
I've tried getting mine to boot a week later with no success.
th...@gmail.com <th...@gmail.com> #106
rt...@gmail.com <rt...@gmail.com> #107
ze...@gmail.com <ze...@gmail.com> #108
Have the same behaviour as pretty much everyone here... the device shows the QUSB_BULK thing when it's connected to the PC...
It's INSANE to me how Google simply decided to not to give a f**k at all about this after all this months and all these bricked devices...
oz...@gmail.com <oz...@gmail.com> #109
ma...@googlemail.com <ma...@googlemail.com> #110
I was on beta and I think the device at least tried to reboot, as it woke me with a bright screen. After that...nothing.
to...@gmail.com <to...@gmail.com> #111
mu...@gmail.com <mu...@gmail.com> #112
What the hell Google.
or...@gmail.com <or...@gmail.com> #113
Like many others have said, unless Google comes up with some sort of fix (folks in the XDA forum are talking about a ‘firehose’ please don’t ask me to explain, lol) it will be my last Google phone and probably my last Android phone.
(Comment successfully typed on my old iPhone 8!)
ka...@gmail.com <ka...@gmail.com> #114
Pixel 3, Verizon, locked bootloader, stock Android 11. Always up to date. Went to bed with a pending OTA update. Woke up with my Pixel 3 in EDL mode. PC shows "QUSB_BULK_CID" in device manager.
jl...@gmail.com <jl...@gmail.com> #115
What total BS Google.
de...@gmail.com <de...@gmail.com> #116
So that's how we keep people buying new phones....
This IS A SCAM!
pe...@gmail.com <pe...@gmail.com> #117
pe...@gmail.com <pe...@gmail.com> #118
ci...@gmail.com <ci...@gmail.com> #119
th...@gmail.com <th...@gmail.com> #120
se...@gmail.com <se...@gmail.com> #121
eh...@gmail.com <eh...@gmail.com> #122
be...@gmail.com <be...@gmail.com> #123
Thats pure bs.
I never even opted in for Android 12. How can they fix over OTA when the phone doesn't connect to wifi/mobile network and is not recognized properly by a computer? Magic?
Cna someone from Google tell us if they are at least investigating this fkr a fix or confirm that they are telling us to fuck off? These are the only two outcome. And one of them for sure means I'm never touch9a Google phone again, and may look into de-googling my life.
se...@gmail.com <se...@gmail.com> #124
Has anyone on this thread been supplied a fix or replacement for the damage google did with the updates? Just curious because I see there is a back log of issues from others that appears to have not been addressed for months.
ci...@gmail.com <ci...@gmail.com> #125
co...@gmail.com <co...@gmail.com> #126
da...@gmail.com <da...@gmail.com> #127
I impulsively ordered a 5a before discovering that this is a widespread issue. I'm starting to regret that decision...
ri...@davey.com <ri...@davey.com> #128
re...@gmail.com <re...@gmail.com> #129
oz...@gmail.com <oz...@gmail.com> #130
ci...@gmail.com <ci...@gmail.com> #131
Please keep us posted on the result.
mi...@toogood.net <mi...@toogood.net> #132
wi...@gmail.com <wi...@gmail.com> #133
There are no issues with the cable or any debris in the charging port, no luck with wireless charging either (stand shows battery is charged but phone doesn't respond).
My computer lists the phone as 'QUSB_CID...etc' when plugged in via USB but there doesn't seem to be any way to interact with it.
Holding down the power and volume down button triggers the sound when a device in connected/disconnected but no life on the phone.
Small hope that I'll get anywhere with my telco since the phone is few months out of warranty.
na...@gmail.com <na...@gmail.com> #134
Been emailing back & forth with google support, their support has been less than fine. The only solution I was given was this link
I'll allow the users here to realise why this wont work.
Has anyone here had any luck with communicating with the google support team?
ja...@gmail.com <ja...@gmail.com> #135
th...@gmail.com <th...@gmail.com> #136
be...@gmail.com <be...@gmail.com> #137
Good luck everyone.
he...@utexas.edu <he...@utexas.edu> #138
sp...@gmail.com <sp...@gmail.com> #139
ze...@gmail.com <ze...@gmail.com> #140
Mine died randomly in the afternoon while in my pocket. I pulled it out to look something up and it never came up or turned on again. I tried to charge it through various chargers with no change. When I attempted to charge from my computer, it showed up as the aforementioned QUSB_BULK_CID. Research has shown this to mean it's locked in EDL mode, and that we need a "firehose" file to fix it. UbreakIfix wants to replace the screen, even knowing this is not the issue, so no help there.
Not sure what to do next, but I guess I'll try Google support, though my phone is considerably past warranty. I'm hoping I get someone smarter that can see this is Google's doing and help me out. I won't hold my breath though, given the other reports.
pe...@gmail.com <pe...@gmail.com> #141
Phone was running latest Android 12 Beta and was charging.
he...@gmail.com <he...@gmail.com> #142
In the process of getting Google to do something about it via Australian Consumer Law like #130 but bought it direct from the Google Store, so no support from JB HiFi...
mi...@gmail.com <mi...@gmail.com> #143
ch...@gmail.com <ch...@gmail.com> #144
pr...@gmail.com <pr...@gmail.com> #145
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pi...@gmail.com <pi...@gmail.com> #147
tf...@gmail.com <tf...@gmail.com> #148
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jo...@gmail.com <jo...@gmail.com> #150
ci...@gmail.com <ci...@gmail.com> #151
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ci...@gmail.com <ci...@gmail.com> #153
pa...@gmail.com <pa...@gmail.com> #155
tr...@gmail.com <tr...@gmail.com> #156
ma...@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> #157
No mention in this support call about whether the phone was recognised when plugged into a PC/Laptop. However I later noticed that when plugged into my laptop I get the "QUSB_BULK_CID" message. I later stummbled across the articles mentioned above about this issue. My phone has never been rooted, has always been kept in a case and has no damage or been dropped etc. Very frustrating that I have looked after the phone and it decides to die less than a year outside of warranty. I have a lot of data on that phone that I would like to recover.
nu...@gmail.com <nu...@gmail.com> #158
ma...@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> #159
ch...@gmail.com <ch...@gmail.com> #160
They also told me I was out of luck, just out of warranty period.....
sr...@gmail.com <sr...@gmail.com> #161
sl...@gmail.com <sl...@gmail.com> #162
de...@gmail.com <de...@gmail.com> #163
em...@gmail.com <em...@gmail.com> #164
Q
be...@gmail.com <be...@gmail.com> #165
ro...@gmail.com <ro...@gmail.com> #166
ro...@gmail.com <ro...@gmail.com> #167
fo...@gmail.com <fo...@gmail.com> #168
And google is denying the issue exists. Making us pay for fixes. I just bought another Pixel 3 XL on
aa...@gmail.com <aa...@gmail.com> #169
kh...@gmail.com <kh...@gmail.com> #170
9a...@gmail.com <9a...@gmail.com> #171
na...@gmail.com <na...@gmail.com> #172
My info: Stock Android 11, unlocked bootloader, June 5th 2021 Android security update, August 1, 2021 Google Play system update.
Kernel: 4.9.248-ga11f008926d6-ab7264851 #0 Wed Apr 7 09:32:21 UTC 2021
Build: RQ3A.210605.005
Hopefully this info helps isolate the issue/patch that is causing this.
9a...@gmail.com <9a...@gmail.com> #173
jg...@gmail.com <jg...@gmail.com> #174
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ze...@gmail.com <ze...@gmail.com> #177
na...@gmail.com <na...@gmail.com> #178
ch...@gmail.com <ch...@gmail.com> #179
time to take this out of this bug tracker thread that google clearly isn't watching. if you use twitter, please tweet @madebygoogle to bring some attention to this situation.
ci...@gmail.com <ci...@gmail.com> #180
sy...@gmail.com <sy...@gmail.com> #181
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sa...@gmail.com <sa...@gmail.com> #183
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kf...@gmail.com <kf...@gmail.com> #185
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va...@gmail.com <va...@gmail.com> #188
j....@gmail.com <j....@gmail.com> #189
to...@gmail.com <to...@gmail.com> #190
A few more week for the launch of the new iPhone i would consider buying over a pixel phone.
be...@gmail.com <be...@gmail.com> #191
overnight I woke up to find it completely dead.
It would have had plenty of battery to still be functional in the morning
even if it didn't charge properly.
On Wed, 1 Sep 2021, 21:57 , <buganizer-system@google.com> wrote:
ga...@gmail.com <ga...@gmail.com> #192
ka...@gmail.com <ka...@gmail.com> #193
Same, except it was a sudden death in this February.
Confirmed the phone was in the EDL mode by checking it with lsusb. Cannot get it out of EDL.
an...@gmail.com <an...@gmail.com> #194
re...@gmail.com <re...@gmail.com> #195
af...@gmail.com <af...@gmail.com> #196
vi...@gmail.com <vi...@gmail.com> #197
so...@gmail.com <so...@gmail.com> #198
jw...@gmail.com <jw...@gmail.com> #199
Thought it was battery issue, but the repair place said it was a motherboard issue and couldn't repair it.
Was going to wait for the 6Pro. But now I am thinking of moving brands after being with Google since the Nexus 1.
dp...@gmail.com <dp...@gmail.com> #200
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ke...@gmail.com <ke...@gmail.com> #202
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pw...@gmail.com <pw...@gmail.com> #204
ga...@gmail.com <ga...@gmail.com> #205
ki...@gmail.com <ki...@gmail.com> #206
sh...@gmail.com <sh...@gmail.com> #207
Then an article on AndroidPolice alerted me to this issue and sure enough, my old Pixel 3 shows up as QUSB_BULK_CID on my Mac. Really disappointing that an update did this. Most things on the old phone were backed up so no real issue there other than Authenticator keys (one site is having to snailmail out a recovery key to me).
Next phone isn't going to be from Google if they can't fix this.
da...@gmail.com <da...@gmail.com> #208
mc...@gmail.com <mc...@gmail.com> #209
te...@gmail.com <te...@gmail.com> #210
bl...@gmail.com <bl...@gmail.com> #211
Google bricked my pixel. Was probably going to be getting a Pixel 6 Pro....but now I'm thinking I'll just go to Apple.
ch...@gmail.com <ch...@gmail.com> #212
again, i urge folks to pester google via twitter about this issue. this issue gets no attention from google and we're just an echo chamber of commiserating. i spent another hour on the phone with them this morning to no avail. google basically stole our phones from us and their only response is "buy a new one."
ar...@gmail.com <ar...@gmail.com> #213
ar...@gmail.com <ar...@gmail.com> #214
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ma...@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> #228
I sure hope Google are willing to fix this, it's not great looking after an expensive device for two years only to have Google break it remotely for you.
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ro...@gmail.com <ro...@gmail.com> #242
I had to purchase a new pixel 5. Now I'm concerned if pixel 5 will die in time too :-(
I may have to switch over to iphone when pixel 5 dies.
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ra...@gmail.com <ra...@gmail.com> #247
Happened after putting the phone on a wireless charger with still half of the battery charged. Half an hour later, when I checked it out, I saw it was dead.
I'm from Brazil and out of warranty.
Google´s technical support couldn't do anything.
So sad, really liked the phone!
ca...@gmail.com <ca...@gmail.com> #248
ne...@gmail.com <ne...@gmail.com> #249
This seems like more than a little problem at this point
ch...@gmail.com <ch...@gmail.com> #250
ma...@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> #251
* What device are you using? (for example, Pixel 4 XL)
Pixel 3 XL
* What are the steps to reproduce the problem? (Please provide the minimal reproducible test case.)
Phone was on a wired charger overnight while sleeping.
* Issue Category e.g. Framework (platform), NDK (platform), Hardware (CPU, GPU, Sensor, Camera), ART (platform), Runtime Permissions etc
Hardware
bi...@gmail.com <bi...@gmail.com> #252
3 XL, died all the way back in September 2020.
I charged my stock unrooted P3XL on my Pixel Stand to 100%, then installed
the official Android 11 OTA update. After the update, I updated my apps,
read some news and went to bed with my phone on my bedside table with ~85%
battery remaining. Woke up the next day with a dead phone and couldn't turn
on, couldn't get to bootloader, etc. But it would still charge on my Pixel
Stand, and I could still plug it into my computers USB.
I tried Google customer support which made me drive >60 miles to the
closest uBreakIfix, which even though I had an appointment they couldn't
work on the same day. Next day they called back and said the battery was
fine, but it needed a new motherboard for $400. I declined the service and
had them ship it back to me, as I wasn't about to drive another 60+ miles.
I had to pay return shipping of $15.
I tried complaining on Twitter, but @Google and @MadeByGoogle couldn't care
less. So I made an appointment at the Apple Store to switch to iPhone after
using Android since the launch of the G1 and every generation of Nexus and
Pixel since. I just couldn't stand iOS though so I returned it and I
switched back to OG Pixel (I was using my Pixel 2 XL as a work phone),
while waiting for Pixel 5 pre-orders.
I've been through the same thing with Nexus Player, where a software update
hard bricked every single Nexus Player ever sold, and they did nothing.
Google just doesn't care about their customers or stand by their hardware.
I've starred the issue and added my story, but no amount of complaining
#metoo or #brixel3 will get Google to take any action. Even if there was a
class action lawsuit, like for the Nexus 6P, you will have to wait years to
get paid pennies for your nearly $1000 paperweight that Google bricked
overnight with a software update, not through any action of your own.
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je...@gmail.com <je...@gmail.com> #253
lc...@gmail.com <lc...@gmail.com> #254
lc...@gmail.com <lc...@gmail.com> #255
See your own threads:
Hundreds of your customers are being screwed by this. I will continue to spread the word so people don't buy your Pixel devices.
Others out of warranty have been given refurbished phones as this is the right thing to do since you're responsible for breaking these devices with no due fault of the end users.
Here is so more reference to what is happening to me and hundreds of others.
There is more I could send you, all published within the past few days. You are leaving us all little choice but to bring legal action against Google.
oz...@gmail.com <oz...@gmail.com> #256
Now the story is being carried by some major tech news outlets, feel free to talk to your local news stations, newspapers, bloggers, etc. to give them "story hints", which will carry the news even further. While I'm positive there's no planned obsolescence going on, it's actually news that flagship phones are dying after just two years - especially when the Pixel 6 is about to come out.
bi...@gmail.com <bi...@gmail.com> #257
here in silicon valley. I'll share all of these links with the NBC news
consumer investigator in San Jose.
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pb...@gmail.com <pb...@gmail.com> #258
Interesting that this is happening weeks before the release of their new model...
ri...@gmail.com <ri...@gmail.com> #259
ca...@gmail.com <ca...@gmail.com> #260
bi...@gmail.com <bi...@gmail.com> #261
I am the first one affected I know of so far, which happened to me all the way back in Sept. 2020, the night that I installed the Android 11 OTA update from Android 10. I take it out of my closet every few months to see if I can revive it, but not luck. Called Google, took it to uBreakIfix, and tried getting a reaction from @MadeByGoogle. Phone was delivered Oct. 28 2018, died on Sept. 8 2020. Only a 1 year warranty, they don't give a damn, so now I have a $980 brick in my hand. No point in buying a $400+tax motherboard replacement when there are other new phones with better warranties to be had for the same or less.
From lsusb:
Bus 001 Device 011: ID 05c6:9008 Qualcomm, Inc. Gobi Wireless Modem (QDL mode)
Device Descriptor:
bLength 18
bDescriptorType 1
bcdUSB 2.10
bDeviceClass 0
bDeviceSubClass 0
bDeviceProtocol 0
bMaxPacketSize0 64
idVendor 0x05c6 Qualcomm, Inc.
idProduct 0x9008 Gobi Wireless Modem (QDL mode)
bcdDevice 0.00
iManufacturer 1 Qualcomm CDMA Technologies MSM
iProduct 2 QUSB_BULK_CID:0402_SN:Fxxxxxxx
iSerial 0
bNumConfigurations 1
lc...@gmail.com <lc...@gmail.com> #262
Hi Leo,
Thanks for contacting Google Support Team.
I apologize for the inconvenience. I can't comment on six months ago issue tracker links and third party sites. I have provided you with the best available options to repair the device. Since Google is the manufacturer on record for Pixel phones, when a Pixel phone is out of warranty:
We cannot support any warranty claims that require device replacements. Hardware Warranty Center
Appreciate your time and patience.
pr...@gmail.com <pr...@gmail.com> #263
I understand your concern. I cannot comment on third party sites and the issue tracker which you shared is from June 25, 2021. Google is committed to continually making improvements to our devices in future software updates.
I wish your device was in warranty to help you with replacement options. Hardware Warranty Center
However, we have provided you with the best available options for repairing the device. You can check with your point of purchase if they can help you with better options.
lc...@gmail.com <lc...@gmail.com> #264
na...@gmail.com <na...@gmail.com> #265
Been running perfectly before that. When are they going to admit the have a software bug which is bricking these phones!!!
no...@gmail.com <no...@gmail.com> #266
My issue is different with a result of a, bricked phone.
My phone is stuck in Fast boot mode. It will not boot even after replacing the battery at the Google recommend repair store. The store attempted to factory reset my phone with no success.
I contacted Google support and after a long chat Google wants me to return to the store.
I was told it may be a hardware issue. I replied that somtimes software can cause a hardware issue
bl...@gmail.com <bl...@gmail.com> #267
But this is just bad....My Nexus 6p had issues, but at least it turned on.
Maybe we all create Twitter accounts "Googlebrickedmypixel" and just constantly troll them with links to all of the articles out there about this issue.
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ze...@gmail.com <ze...@gmail.com> #277
Terrible way to end the trust and support we had in Google.
sa...@gmail.com <sa...@gmail.com> #278
It feels more like the flash has gone bad rather than as a result of an update, since not everyone mentions the problem occurring after an update.
If it's bad flash it usually bricks immediately after flashing new code.. as it becomes corrupt when written.. so id be interested if an update can be identified after which it never managed to boot even once.
If most (judging by the comments) died while charging at night I guess its NOT immediately after an update.. and therefore much more likely to be a hardware problem.
fr...@gmail.com <fr...@gmail.com> #279
Pixel 3xl just die!! for no reason. put it on my desk come back 5 minutes later and it was dead... HELP!!
I love this phone!!
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sm...@gmail.com <sm...@gmail.com> #283
Get ready for a big lawsuit !
You - Google - are %100 responsible party. It's your product, and your policy to force updates on the phone.
Your silence on this is deafening.
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Same thing happened to my Pixel 3XL. Went to bed plugged in. Woke up, phone was dead. Screen and buttons were unresponsive. Tried holding various combinations to reboot, draining and charging, plugging into computer, but nothing worked. Went and bought a new phone, but would be nice to get it working again.
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How is it possible that this problem is not being responded to by Google ?
Get ready for a big lawsuit !
You - Google - are %100 responsible party. It's your product, and your policy to force updates on the phone.
Your silence on this is deafening.
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Starred and also awaiting resolution. I have a 3XL, situation is similar to what others have mentioned, so nothing to add on that front. With the age of the phone, I consider this something that needs to be formally addressed either through update or RMA. It's not acceptable and severely damages the reputation of the Pixel lineup. Not everyone subscribes to the "upgrade every year" model.
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Does anyone know if I can at least get the pictures out?
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ni...@gmail.com <ni...@gmail.com> #294
Just some random idea... I am not affected yet, so I can't test this and don't want to test this on my productive device. There is no firehorse binary for the Pixel 3. These flasher binaries are signed for secure boot. IF there is just one signing key and the bootloader is signed with the same key, it might be possible to run the bootloader instead of firehorse through EDL. That might help to boot the phone a last time to backup your data.
So, if someone wants to try this:
- Get the bootloader.img from the factory image
- Use the firehorse tools from
or the edl tool fromalephsecurity to upload and execute the bootloader.img - you probably need to slightly modify the toolsbkerler
Using the full image might not work. However, it's possible to extract xbl, abl etc. from the image using
# ../../imgtool/imgtool bootloader.img
QCom SD845 ("FBPK") image detected
Partition Table with 19 entries:
0x23b0: msadp
0x63f0: xbl
0x385430: xbl_config
0x39d470: aop
0x3cb4b0: tz
0x5c14f0: hyp
0x621530: abl
...
Another possibility could be unsoldering (BGA!) the UFS flash, flashing the (probably broken) bootloader directly using
Note: (de)soldering BGA is highly advanced... Only do that if you know what you are doing and can risk final loss of your data!
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pa...@gmail.com <pa...@gmail.com> #297
Get Outlook for Android<
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My Pixel 3 XL bricked while in use on Tuesday. It is stuck in EDL mode. Google support said there is nothing they can do since these are all out of warranty. The local Google authorized repair shop is willing to try to fix it and only charge me if the fix works. I'll probably try it and report back.
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ma...@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> #298
ma...@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> #299
YOU DID THIS.
pe...@gmail.com <pe...@gmail.com> #300
I thought it was dead until recently when I found out about this issue. I plugged it into my computer and found that it showed up in device manager on my Windows PC as QUSB_BULK_CID.
I hope that this issue can be fixed by you as you have broken it. I don't understand how such a big company can so blatantly ignore such a mountain of evidence that shows it was something you did to break all these phones.
da...@gmail.com <da...@gmail.com> #301
Now really worried that my new Pixel 3 could randomly crap out too. Called Google support but they claimed they're not aware of an issue. It's out of warranty so looks like I'll have to pay to get it fixed for a problem that was not caused by me.
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bk...@gmail.com <bk...@gmail.com> #310
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ad...@lumsdenlive.com <ad...@lumsdenlive.com> #312
Thanks Google! Loyal buyer since the Galaxy Nexus, looking forward the the 6. Now just trying to decide if I'm going Samsung or full Apple.
ho...@gmail.com <ho...@gmail.com> #313
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st...@gmail.com <st...@gmail.com> #315
Totally stock unlocked pixel 3 xl purchased from Google Fi in 2018. A little worried as this was just one of the pixel 3 devices in my household. Have two other examples still working ......for now. Please fix Google. If it can't be fixed, please help those affected with a new/refurbished device.
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ja...@gmail.com <ja...@gmail.com> #319
I would also recommend google 'Android News' and emailing/messaging your favourite websites and publications, hopefully, if the media pick up this story Google will do something about all these bricked phones!
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Adding myself to the list. Late July work up to a dead 3XL with all the same symptoms. Heres the fun part, went back to my old Pixel 1 as a backed up, it started to boot and ended up in the same state!
Thanks Google! Loyal buyer since the Galaxy Nexus, looking forward the the 6. Now just trying to decide if I'm going Samsung or full Apple.
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pe...@indez.com <pe...@indez.com> #321
I have had my Pixel 3 since April 2019. Always worked perfectly. Screen OK. Battery OK. All OK. Then it just stopped working. It will not start or charge or anything. I wasn't doing anything ... it just stopped. I started looking and found
I am 6 months past the end of Warrantee. I checked the cost of a repair and Google quoted me £324+tax. I plan to upgrade to a Pixel 6. What should I do?
wi...@gmail.com <wi...@gmail.com> #322
sa...@gmail.com <sa...@gmail.com> #323
"What should I do"
Definitely not buy a Pixel 6.. Google cant put together a working and long lasting phone.. my Nexus 4, 5X and Pixel 3 have all died of hardware faults. I've got 15 year old phones from other manufacturers that work just fine.
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Model G013A on Verizon
I get the QUSB_BULK_CID:0402_SNxxxx in device manager and nothing else.
st...@gmail.com <st...@gmail.com> #331
Just trying to be detailed in the hope that someone may actually be working on this. Hopefully if people include useful info (instead of or in addition to their threats to move to another brand or OS) we could actually get a fix.
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la...@gmail.com <la...@gmail.com> #339
I've tried pretty much everything I could think of;
I tried holding every combination of button for 2 minutes, nothing.
I tried using muscle memory to turn on USB File Transfer Mode (I thought the screen was broken), nothing.
I put them both in the freezer for an hour, nothing.
My Pixel 3XL's back cover was smashed to bits already so I pulled it all off and disconnected the battery, screen cable, every possible cable I could find and re-fastened them.. nothing!
So now I'm sitting here with two dead phones. Hopefully there's some news soon. I can't believe both of these phones died within a day to the same issue. At first I thought it was the charging cord and that it had somehow shorted both of the phones or something!
pe...@gmail.com <pe...@gmail.com> #340
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ja...@gmail.com <ja...@gmail.com> #344
Was really looking forward to Pixel 6, but not after realizing that this problem was so widely-spread and that Google doesn't seem to care. If Google doesn't resolve this, Pixel 3 was my last Google product.
Don't forget to star the issue!
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ni...@gmail.com <ni...@gmail.com> #346
Anyone interested to test this?
se...@gmail.com <se...@gmail.com> #347
Tried everything which is possible including turn on into bootloader but nothing...
pa...@rgbassurance.com.au <pa...@rgbassurance.com.au> #348
ke...@gmail.com <ke...@gmail.com> #349
Also, went to a repair shop and they told me the motherboard is toasted so unfixable. This was definitely and update to happened overnight.
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bi...@gmail.com <bi...@gmail.com> #358
On September 8 2020, I updated my Google Pixel 3 XL to Android 11 using the
official OTA update from Google. I set my phone on my bedside table with
>80% battery remaining and went to sleep. The next morning my phone was off
and could not be rebooted. I can charge the phone using wireless charging
or the supplied USB-C cable, but there is absolutely nothing that can be
done to get the screen to turn on, or to get to the phones boot loader to
factory reset the device or flash a new version of the OS. Plugging the
phone into my computer I can see that the phone is stuck in QDL/EDL mode
and is not recoverable.
Prior to this incident, the phone was in perfect working condition. It had
never been dropped, it had never been exposed to water, the screen was in
excellent condition with no chips or cracks. I called Google Customer
Support and they informed me that there was nothing they could do as the
phone was out of warranty and recommended that I take the phone to a 3rd
party repair shop >30 miles from my home. The repair shop said that both
the battery and screen were fine, but that the phone would need a new
motherboard which would cost $400 + tax. I declined repair and had them
ship the phone back to me, which cost $15 for return shipping.
The phone cost $979.91 from the Google Store and was less than 2 years old
when it randomly died by no act of my own. My Pixel 3 XL was completely
damaged, either by a hardware failure, or a software update provided by
Google. The warranty is only 1 year, so Google is completely unwilling to
help resolve the matter. As the phone cannot be powered on, it could not be
used as a trade-in to subsidize the cost of a new phone.
Although, the majority of complaints are from Google Pixel 3 and Google
Pixel 3 XL users on Android 11. As I understand, this issue began in July
2020 and has been occurring more recently on all Google Pixel mobile phones
from 2017 onward, when running Android version 11 or 12. Even with
thousands of reported cases, Google has not released a statement and so far
has been unwilling to provide support to affected users.
On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 11:40 AM <buganizer-system@google.com> wrote:
zn...@gmail.com <zn...@gmail.com> #359
bi...@gmail.com <bi...@gmail.com> #360
and affected users will get next to nothing out of it. I would much rather
see Google take ownership, step up and provide either 1) replacements, 2)
full trade-in value for affected units to upgrade to Pixel 5a, Pixel 6 or
Pixel 6 Pro, or 3) a refund equal to the current full trade-in value.
On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 1:14 PM Stewart Gateley <birbeck@gmail.com> wrote:
mm...@gmail.com <mm...@gmail.com> #361
mi...@gmail.com <mi...@gmail.com> #362
ch...@gmail.com <ch...@gmail.com> #363
ri...@gmail.com <ri...@gmail.com> #364
jo...@gmail.com <jo...@gmail.com> #365
qu...@gmail.com <qu...@gmail.com> #366
Bought the 5a 5g from Google but got lost in transportation for bad address apparently. Googled support is ridiculous as it has now been 6 days of hearing "we escalated your issue you will hear from us in 24 hrs" after 24 hours it was again "you will hear from us in 24 hours" now they are telling me I will "hear from us in 72 hours."
What a joke. They offer no resolutions for this issues.
ag...@gmail.com <ag...@gmail.com> #367
jo...@gmail.com <jo...@gmail.com> #368
sd...@gmail.com <sd...@gmail.com> #369
Here's hoping that Google does the right thing and makes good on this problem. Eventually. Maybe. I guess.
ta...@gmail.com <ta...@gmail.com> #370
br...@gmail.com <br...@gmail.com> #371
ri...@gmail.com <ri...@gmail.com> #372
st...@gmail.com <st...@gmail.com> #373
sa...@gmail.com <sa...@gmail.com> #374
ab...@gmail.com <ab...@gmail.com> #375
I tried restarting the device, charging it multiple times and even gave my phone to a Google authorized service center but there was no help from anyone.
wa...@gmail.com <wa...@gmail.com> #376
e....@gmail.com <e....@gmail.com> #377
ta...@gmail.com <ta...@gmail.com> #378
Pixel 3, Android 10(?), left (not charging) on bedside table overnight and found it to be completely unresponsive the next day. No lights, no buzzing, no charging, no life.
Plugging into computer shows device as "qusb_bulk" followed by numbers.
ak...@gmail.com <ak...@gmail.com> #379
to...@gmail.com <to...@gmail.com> #380
ed...@gmail.com <ed...@gmail.com> #381
ga...@gmail.com <ga...@gmail.com> #382
mr...@gmail.com <mr...@gmail.com> #383
ja...@gmail.com <ja...@gmail.com> #384
jo...@gmail.com <jo...@gmail.com> #385
My computer would recognize a device but not as my phone. Not trouble shooting steps worked to recover my phone. I took it to a repair shop and they tried reseating the battery. When that didn't work, they tried hooking up a new screen. Unfortunately that didn't work either. They didn't charge me anything for their services, just apologized that they couldn't fix it and said the phone wasn't worth repairing at this point anyway.
Luckily I had insurance on my device but they were only able to replace it with a Pixel 4XL. I do not like my 4XL at all. I'm not ready to jump to Apple but I'm not feeling much love from Google.
de...@gmail.com <de...@gmail.com> #386
jc...@gmail.com <jc...@gmail.com> #387
jk...@gmail.com <jk...@gmail.com> #388
Put it on charge and went to sleep. Woke up and the battery was at ~25%. Put it on charge with another charger after I noticed. Phone said it was charging so I went and did a few things for work. Came back and phone was at 23%. So I played around with a few things, closing apps, unplugging/reseating the charger cable. Nothing was moving the bar. I decided to reboot the phone (at around 16% charge) The phone shut down and then never came back up. It does not respond to any attempt to bring life back in to it.
bo...@gmail.com <bo...@gmail.com> #389
kb...@gmail.com <kb...@gmail.com> #390
ji...@gmail.com <ji...@gmail.com> #391
Pixel 3 XL was plugged into charger overnight.
Confirmed phone stopped responding around 9/8/2021 3:30AM ET based on Android Find My Phone status.
Stock OS, NOT rooted, with all automated updates.
Screen unresponsive.
Hard reboot impossible.
Power + volume down or holding power will cause USB connection to PC to detect/disconnect.
When connected to PC via USB:
Device recognized as: Qualcomm HS-USB QDLoader 9008
Bus reported device description: QUSB_BULK_CID {sn redacted}
Current Power State: D0 (fully on state)
If NO Android 9 or 10 Pixel 3 phones are affected by the QUSB_BULK CID issue, then owners are owed some form of compensation for bricking CAUSED by Android 11 or associated version update / security update.
re...@gmail.com <re...@gmail.com> #392
lo...@gmail.com <lo...@gmail.com> #393
2. Go to developer options and find "automatic system updates" (or search for it)
3. Turn it off
Maybe this can prevent the issue to happen to those with a working P3? Not sure tho!
mf...@gmail.com <mf...@gmail.com> #394
bl...@gmail.com <bl...@gmail.com> #395
am...@gmail.com <am...@gmail.com> #396
ja...@gmail.com <ja...@gmail.com> #397
be...@gmail.com <be...@gmail.com> #398
wh...@gmail.com <wh...@gmail.com> #399
so...@gmail.com <so...@gmail.com> #400
jb...@gmail.com <jb...@gmail.com> #401
af...@gmail.com <af...@gmail.com> #402
My Pixel 5 actually black screen bricked 5 weeks later. It was under warranty though, so Google fixed it. They said it had a "bad screen and charging port". Not sure I buy that though.
ji...@gmail.com <ji...@gmail.com> #403
This is a "hard brick" because the EDL mode is put in place by Qualcomm specifically to recover from such instances (bad flash to the Secondary Bootloader), and the key to recovery is not made available, see below.
The solution is to use Qualcomm's proprietary management tools QPST / QFIL to flash the phone.
With the correct driver (QDLoader), the phone appears as a Qualcomm HS-UDB QDLoader 9008 device.
QPSTConfig.exe correctly detects the device and COM port number. This confirms the phone is ready for an EDL flash of a factory image.
However, in order to successfully flash a factory image with QFIL, an OEM-digitally-signed programmer is required by the Qualcomm Sahara protocol. Simplified, a proprietary binary "key" needs to be provided by Google to proceed with the EDL recovery flash.
While it is understandable that perhaps releasing the programmer may lead to exploits, surely a tool can be wrapped around QFIL and the programmer to securely perform the flash and released to ubreakifix to do a 20~30 minute factory flash reset.
The first step is acknowledging the severity of this issue - the bugtracker tracking this issue is currently only P3 - to be addressed when able. This should be a P1 - to be addressed quickly, if not P0.
P3 is an insult to everyone using stock, unrooted Android Pixel 3 phones getting bricked by an automated update.
jg...@gmail.com <jg...@gmail.com> #404
bn...@gmail.com <bn...@gmail.com> #405
ab...@gmail.com <ab...@gmail.com> #406
Was excited for the pixel 6 to come out. Now I'm switching my entire family to iPhone. Never purchasing or recommending to a Google phone again. And this is coming from someone who was a HUGE Google fanboy previously.
we...@gmail.com <we...@gmail.com> #407
cn...@gmail.com <cn...@gmail.com> #408
Completely unacceptable.
va...@gmail.com <va...@gmail.com> #409
ci...@gmail.com <ci...@gmail.com> #410
fa...@gmail.com <fa...@gmail.com> #411
ri...@gmail.com <ri...@gmail.com> #412
ja...@gmail.com <ja...@gmail.com> #413
al...@gmail.com <al...@gmail.com> #414
ju...@gmail.com <ju...@gmail.com> #415
me...@gmail.com <me...@gmail.com> #416
I would second the suggestion earlier, to go into developer mode and disable automatic system updates as well as disable auto updates from the Google store until this gets resolved. Sucks because I generally keep my apps up to date, but don' want to take the chance of hosing either phone.
mj...@gmail.com <mj...@gmail.com> #417
lu...@gmail.com <lu...@gmail.com> #418
Do the right thing and help these people ^ out. Step up, do the right thing, and replace their devices. Maybe then I won't second-guess getting another Pixel someday.
hg...@gmail.com <hg...@gmail.com> #419
mi...@gmail.com <mi...@gmail.com> #420
br...@gmail.com <br...@gmail.com> #421
ru...@gmail.com <ru...@gmail.com> #422
I have no idea if it makes any difference, but the September monthly security update (below) has 18 lines with Qualcomm
I updated my two Pixel 3 XL (bought 2018 from Google, on Rogers, Canada, stock, not rooted, Android 11) and both work fine (so far)
ke...@gmail.com <ke...@gmail.com> #423
Woke up to bricked device; black screen, Non-responsive to power+voldown.
Taken in to Ubreakifix, verdict: "Motherboard failure of some kind".
When plugged into PC shows up as "QUSB_BULK_CID:0402_SN: ..." just as with the other reports of this type.
de...@gmail.com <de...@gmail.com> #424
th...@gmail.com <th...@gmail.com> #425
ks...@gmail.com <ks...@gmail.com> #426
(Note: It is the build when sending this report. For exact build reference, please see the attached bugreport.)
I have had the same problem - woke up Saturday morning (4th) to a completely dead Pixel 3. It was running the latest beta of Android 12 at the time.
Debugging information
Google Play services
com.google.android.gms
Version 213016053 (21.30.16 (190400-391784508))
System App (Updated)
Android System WebView
com.google.android.webview
Version 457706234 (93.0.4577.62)
System App (Updated)
Network operator: giffgaff
SIM operator: giffgaff
Filed by Android Beta Feedback. Version (Updated): 2.20-betterbug.external_20210805_RC02
To learn more about our feedback process, please visit
ci...@gmail.com <ci...@gmail.com> #427
pl...@gmail.com <pl...@gmail.com> #428
ly...@zoominternet.net <ly...@zoominternet.net> #429
lo...@gmail.com <lo...@gmail.com> #430
ji...@gmail.com <ji...@gmail.com> #431
To everyone that's considering getting another new Pixel despite this horrible experience, please remember to opt-out of arbitration.
When you buy a new Pixel, Google slips in a non-arbitration agreement as PART of the act of purchasing.
Search for "Pixel arbitration opt-out" or go here within 30 days of activation:
Make screenshots, and note the day and time of when you opted out.
la...@gmail.com <la...@gmail.com> #432
ri...@gmail.com <ri...@gmail.com> #433
Do the right thing Google. Your motto used to be "Don't Be Evil". We just want our phones to work
ra...@gmail.com <ra...@gmail.com> #434
And now, I'm bricked... Phone won't boot, stuck on this screen.
be...@gmail.com <be...@gmail.com> #435
zn...@gmail.com <zn...@gmail.com> #436
bo...@gmail.com <bo...@gmail.com> #437
ja...@gmail.com <ja...@gmail.com> #438
the pixel 6 and this will force us to change brands so my wife has a
phone. May want to take care of the people that are waiting for the pixel
6 that are ready to upgrade from the 3. You will lose sales over this.
On Sat, Sep 11, 2021, 8:19 AM <buganizer-system@google.com> wrote:
je...@gmail.com <je...@gmail.com> #439
vi...@gmail.com <vi...@gmail.com> #440
aa...@gmail.com <aa...@gmail.com> #441
I am also facing same issue with my google pixel 3 device . Please retweet my link and make it a campign against Google for pixel 3
ps...@gmail.com <ps...@gmail.com> #442
out of warranty, take it to UBREAKIFIX. They had no solution.
On Sat, Sep 11, 2021, 08:15 <buganizer-system@google.com> wrote:
sh...@gmail.com <sh...@gmail.com> #443
Since its from 2019 it out of warranty ...
Chat with google support and saying its all over the web ended with
8:17:15 Ryan: There are people who are working on that issue tracker. If you need to any update on the issue, you can view the link.
8:17:40 Ryan: However in this case, we wont be able to provide any warranty options for the device.
hi...@yahoo.com <hi...@yahoo.com> #444
ja...@gmail.com <ja...@gmail.com> #445
ho...@gmail.com <ho...@gmail.com> #446
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How many pixel 3 owners are on this list that were waiting for the pixel 6 to come out to upgrade?? How many of you are now reconsidering this purchase after being told they weren't going to do anything to help you?
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xb...@gmail.com <xb...@gmail.com> #447
Wonderfull...
rw...@gmail.com <rw...@gmail.com> #448
dr...@gmail.com <dr...@gmail.com> #449
dd...@gmail.com <dd...@gmail.com> #450
(Note: It is the build when sending this report. For exact build reference, please see the attached bugreport.)
The Pixel 3 XL turned off while charging and didn't turn on for 2 days. Now, for some reason, it has come to life.
Debugging information
Сервисы Google Play
com.google.android.gms
Version 213017053 (21.30.17 (190400-395706864))
System App (Updated)
Android System WebView
com.google.android.webview
Version 457706233 (93.0.4577.62)
System App (Updated)
Network operator: MegaFon
SIM operator: MegaFon
Filed by Android Beta Feedback. Version (Updated): 2.20-betterbug.external_20210805_RC02
To learn more about our feedback process, please visit
rs...@gmail.com <rs...@gmail.com> #451
sb...@gmail.com <sb...@gmail.com> #452
jm...@gmail.com <jm...@gmail.com> #453
I tried for the whole next day to charge the phone in multiple different ways (from the computer, wirelessly, with the original charger and cable, and any other appropriate cable) and to launch it in every possible way from the Fastboot menu to recover the phone, but every time it would launch it would do the same thing of showing the Google logo, then shutting off-- even while plugged in for hours. Initially, when plugged in and off, it would at least display the charging battery symbol on the screen and get warm to the touch. Eventually with all my attempts to boot it, it got in a loop of flashing the Google logo over and over as it tried to boot repeatedly. Now it won't even do that much, it's gone completely dead, unresponsive, and won't charge. I've had this phone for about 2 years and a month. The warranty only lasts for a year. I'm pretty annoyed for my phone to have this catastrophic failure after just 2 years. I will still replace it with another Google phone, because up until this moment I was totally satisfied with it, but what a horrible way to go out from something that was by no means cheap. Very disappointing.
sh...@gmail.com <sh...@gmail.com> #454
et...@gmail.com <et...@gmail.com> #455
I remember still having around 40%ish before putting it down on the table. I tried charging it with various chargers, pressing the power button for >30s, pressing both power and volume rocker (attempted up, down, and both), and it still doesn't show anything on the screen. I tried connecting it to my laptop, and there it goes... QUSB_BULK_CID. Yep, it's bricked.
It was vanilla, no history of rooting or any other tampering, I only enabled the developer mode (Forgot what for).
I've read about the issue in the beginning of the month on arstechnica, but I was mulling on the replacement, and these 2 weeks has been hectic at work, so I haven't decided on the replacement. Now it's ruining my day, I can't contact the patients I scheduled for this week and the next, and I can't communicate with most people because most people use whatsapp around here. total pain in the arse. I know I'm going to replace it, but not like this.
am...@gmail.com <am...@gmail.com> #456
em...@gmail.com <em...@gmail.com> #457
da...@gmail.com <da...@gmail.com> #458
ia...@cazabat.com <ia...@cazabat.com> #459
I am/was anticipating the launch of the unannounced Pixel 6, but this will give me a bit of pause if the Pixel 6 does come out with a "flagship" price tag. I bought my 3XL used, so was a great deal.
I loved my 3XL up until it died. I'm hoping Google does the right thing and gives us a chance to get these phones working again. Most of my stuff was backed up the night before, but pictures/etc that I took yesterday are currently "lost".
ia...@cazabat.com <ia...@cazabat.com> #460
More info on firehose:
Qualcomm HS-USB QDLoader 9008
m....@gmail.com <m....@gmail.com> #461
jk...@gmail.com <jk...@gmail.com> #462
or...@gmail.com <or...@gmail.com> #463
ja...@gmail.com <ja...@gmail.com> #464
pa...@gmail.com <pa...@gmail.com> #465
Mind you, I believe the Zombie Apocalypse is imminent, so, yeah.
ma...@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> #466
ex...@gmail.com <ex...@gmail.com> #467
nv...@gmail.com <nv...@gmail.com> #468
re...@gmail.com <re...@gmail.com> #469
motherboard into your Brixel 3/3XL and downgrade to android 10 and or
disable automatic OTA updates and updates through the Google store until
Google figures out what the hell they've screwed up and announces a fix or
apologizes. Don't buy a new phone, this one is perfectly fine and it's the
cheapest still relevant flagship out there.
On Tue, Sep 14, 2021, 11:36 AM <buganizer-system@google.com> wrote:
bi...@gmail.com <bi...@gmail.com> #470
je...@gmail.com <je...@gmail.com> #471
ja...@gmail.com <ja...@gmail.com> #472
in hopes that mine won't do this. All we wanted was to use the 3 until the
6 comes out. This crap makes us not want to buy the 6 and jump brands. If
there is a class action suit, we are ready to hand over a sample of a
bricked phone!
On Tue, Sep 14, 2021, 2:00 PM <buganizer-system@google.com> wrote:
m....@gmail.com <m....@gmail.com> #473
ja...@gmail.com <ja...@gmail.com> #474
je...@gmail.com <je...@gmail.com> #476
Charging to google wifi charger doesn't help either even if the white light indicator on the charger is blinking.
Did try that hold power and volume down button for 32 seconds for more than 10 times now. Still no luck!
wi...@richey.id.au <wi...@richey.id.au> #477
jo...@gmail.com <jo...@gmail.com> #478
am...@gmail.com <am...@gmail.com> #479
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Hi,
My name is Sean, and your case was escalated to the Advanced Hardware Support Team for additional review. I understand you are experiencing an issue with your Pixel 3 stuck in EDL mode. I’m happy to look into this for you!
Our analysis team is interested in looking at some of these devices, so I'd like to offer you a replacement device. This process requires you to ship your original device first. After we receive the device, we will ship out the warranty device. Expect a turnaround time of 5-10 business days. If you're open to that, please respond with the following information:
Your full name:
IMEI of the Pixel:
Full shipping address:
Phone number:
I look forward to hearing back from you. Feel free to include any questions in your response.
Thanks!
Sean
The Google Support Team
ze...@gmail.com <ze...@gmail.com> #480
To those who haven't already, be sure to click that little star in the top right corner to mark yourself as effected. Thanks! :D
am...@gmail.com <am...@gmail.com> #481
Hopefully they make it right. I used to upgrade my phone at least once a year for as long as I could remember. I ordered the Pixel 3 right after launch and have had it since. Truly the best phone I've ever owned and still was fast enough & approaching 3 years old. The perfect combination of size and features.
ja...@gmail.com <ja...@gmail.com> #482
no idea what she was talking about. She gave them this issue id number 3
times to look up. It was a waste of her time and patience.
On Tue, Sep 14, 2021, 7:32 PM <buganizer-system@google.com> wrote:
sa...@gmail.com <sa...@gmail.com> #483
mc...@gmail.com <mc...@gmail.com> #484
Google CS recommended I get it checked out at a local ubreakifix. They didn’t have a solution except replace the motherboard for $500.
Google CS then suggested I mail the phone in to get diagnosed. They now claim the phone has water damage and quoted $450+ for a refurbished phone (while they have them on the google the store for $250). They even changed the ticket to show that I reported a water damage even though I originally reported a blank screen issue.
I’m normally not a paranoid person, but Ubreakifix did not find water damage and actually noted the phone was in very good condition in their ticket.
I’ve been with google phones since Nexus and was planning on getting a Pixel 6. However I’m tired of dealing with quality issues on every google phone I’ve had and their terrible CS. Will be moving on to something else.
to...@gmail.com <to...@gmail.com> #485
bl...@gmail.com <bl...@gmail.com> #486
The representative was somewhat helpful....I also got pretty upset and demanding without ever getting rude. He stated they could do a $35 store credit but he knew it I would not be happy with that offer. Afterwards he stated he was going to send another request for RMA to a different higher dept. The following day he emailed me stating they were making a one time exception. I have my dead Pixel 3 XL boxed up and was going to send it off yesterday, but the shipping store was closed due to a hurricane.
It wasn't pleasant and it wasn't easy, but eventually they agreed to replace.
So call, raise hell, and don't take no for an answer. Be polite with a little belligerence and hopefully they'll do the same for you.
ji...@gmail.com <ji...@gmail.com> #487
Call them out immediately for lying. Refer to this bugtracker, and people that have already raised this issue to support numerous times.
Feel free to refer to my Case ID below.
Please post your CASE IDs here. It's very hard for support to deny knowledge when we list our Case IDs referring to the same problem.
I was promised my case would be escalated to engineering, only to be railroaded like copied below.
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2021 SEP 9
Your Google Support Inquiry: Case ID [0-3328000031401]
Hi Jim,
Thanks for contacting Google Support!
After escalating the case to the escalations team they have given their decision. Unfortunately they pushed back the request for a replacement device for this issue. I am sorry Jim, but we cannot process anything for this. We appreciate you letting us know about this issue.
Have a great day and stay safe!
Thanks!
Jhon
The Google Support Team
to: device-support
This is unacceptable without an explanation.
I was told the engineering team would be involved, but the decision is not based on any empirical evidence, just a denial of request by an escalations team without reason.
This is not a user caused failure, nor has any investigation of this documented problem attributed to hardware failure.
If no due process is being made to determine the cause of failure, then the only explanation is that a software update CAUSED this wide-spread failure.
In the bug tracker, there is not a single case of the QUSB_BULK_CID issue with Android 10 or Android 9.
Initial escalation team even denied knowledge of this problem, while the bug tracker and news outlets have documented this for months.
Please provide an explanation of the denial of warranty exception.
Please provide evidence this problem is NOT caused by a software update, which can be construed as willful intent to disable my Pixel 3XL.
be...@gmail.com <be...@gmail.com> #488
Thx
me...@gmail.com <me...@gmail.com> #489
am...@gmail.com <am...@gmail.com> #490
Your Google Support Inquiry: Case ID [5-1064000031500]
ji...@gmail.com <ji...@gmail.com> #491
did you happen to get an RMA for Case ID [5-1064000031500]? Thanks for posting!
ce...@gmail.com <ce...@gmail.com> #492
vi...@gmail.com <vi...@gmail.com> #493
an...@gmail.com <an...@gmail.com> #494
lu...@gmail.com <lu...@gmail.com> #495
ji...@gmail.com <ji...@gmail.com> #496
Me: I am also recording this conversation
Support: We do not allow you to record
Me: So you can record, but I can't?
Support: That is correct.
... railroading continues, goes nowhere ...
Support: would you like to provide feedback after this call?
Me: sure
Support: please hold *click*
Call disconnected.
ti...@gmail.com <ti...@gmail.com> #497
Hi $NAME
Thank you for contacting Google Support Team.
This email is in reference to our conversation about device won't turn on.
As discussed, your device is out of warranty, and we'd recommend you to get in touch with the CTDI Google's official repair partner they'll help you get your device fixed.
Please find below the details of CTDI :-
CTDI
All Pixel phones
Type of service: Not available services
Repairs for Pixel phones affected by physical or liquid damage
Phone: +61 2 9150 4243
Hours
Mon-Fri: 8:30 AM–4:30 PM local time
ca...@gmail.com <ca...@gmail.com> #498
ph...@gmail.com <ph...@gmail.com> #499
My Pixel 3 is still surviving but I had to dig a lousy old Samsung phone and get it ready to go just in case. Phone contact is critical for my job and Google is letting me down.
cu...@gmail.com <cu...@gmail.com> #500
Thanks google for bricking my device. I lost all my photos/files probably.
ze...@gmail.com <ze...@gmail.com> #501
Hope this helps!
(Don't forget to click the star at the top :D )
am...@gmail.com <am...@gmail.com> #502
oz...@gmail.com <oz...@gmail.com> #503
While it's unlikely Google will ever care (P3/S3 on this ticket literally means "never look at this"), at the least we can cost them tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars in sales.
aq...@gmail.com <aq...@gmail.com> #504
I then plugged it into my PC just to see what will happen and sure enough, the PC detects it but shows the "QUSB_BULK_CID......" name as the device, just like everyone else here.
Before it bricked, I was already running Android 12 beta since it was announced and never had any issues. Everything was running smoothly, even after various beta updates along the way. I don't remember which update I last received before it died though so unfortunately I cannot provide any info on that.
My IMEI number 99001201*******, I can provide the complete number to a Google technician/Engineer separately if necessary. I am also willing to part ways with it if will be substituted for either the same phone or newer. I just need to figure out a way to back up some things in it such as my messages, etc because I was not ready for it to just die out of nowhere. I was hoping that it will at least last until the Pixel 6 come out, but it's really disappointing that it just randomly died. I understand the inherent risk of running beta software, but I also don't expect it to just implode for no reason. I've been beta testing with every single Android release since Ice Cream Sandwich on all my Android phones, and never experienced this before. I hope Google will do the right thing and compensate everyone who's Pixel phone bricked, especially if this has something to do with either an update or patch they pushed.
ro...@gmail.com <ro...@gmail.com> #505
fo...@gmail.com <fo...@gmail.com> #506
ro...@gmail.com <ro...@gmail.com> #507
ro...@gmail.com <ro...@gmail.com> #508
ia...@cazabat.com <ia...@cazabat.com> #509
ia...@cazabat.com <ia...@cazabat.com> #510
aq...@gmail.com <aq...@gmail.com> #511
st...@gmail.com <st...@gmail.com> #512
aa...@gmail.com <aa...@gmail.com> #513
You will be all glad to hear that the support person was happy to "apologize for any inconvenience" they tried to do the right thing but then the terms on my return want me to pre-approve $1,199 AUD to be deducted if its decided its not within warranty for the replacement Pixel 3 they would send me out.
Given the frequency of these claims and the age of the phone its a bit rough for them to expect me to trust their process when they don't publicly acknowledge the issue.
oz...@gmail.com <oz...@gmail.com> #514
ms...@gmail.com <ms...@gmail.com> #515
mi...@gmail.com <mi...@gmail.com> #516
At the time, I was not aware of the EDL issue going on, so I brought it to a uBreakIFixIt store. They did some diagnostics (battery replacement, etc) and could not determine what the issue was with the phone. I now know it is the EDL issue.
da...@gmail.com <da...@gmail.com> #517
ca...@gmail.com <ca...@gmail.com> #518
I recently got a security update I installed 3-4 days ago. I have tried to use the hard reset buttons but nothing comes on the screen ever. I popped out the Sim and tried to turn it on, same thing. Tried different chargers that are all working with my wifes phone and nothing. Seems dead.
Odd thing. Pulled out my wife's old pixel 1 and plugged it in and saw the charging meter come on. Let it charge for a half hour and popped in my sim and turned it on. Now its bricked. Now I am getting conspiratorial. haha
re...@gmail.com <re...@gmail.com> #519
hr...@gmail.com <hr...@gmail.com> #520
Same result, Went to sleep with Pixel charging, woke up to phone on 1% and recognized charger, but refused to charge. Continuedly cycles in a boot loop before dying from low battery.
Tried multiple chargers, connected to computer, nothing. Tried to opt out of Android 12 but I can't get in my phone to remove it.
ji...@gmail.com <ji...@gmail.com> #521
i will be repeatedly asking Google support to get an official position from the engineering team.
I will not take it in to ubreakifix at this time, reasons detailed in my most recent email to them below
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Hi [device-support],
I appreciate the follow up, and I understand you currently can only offer solutions your team is allowed to give.
Unfortunately, all instances of users sending phones to ubreakifix on the bug tracker report the same thing: ubreakifix cannot determine the cause of the failure.
Most cases, due to the inability to diagnose why the EDL issue occurs, the recommended resolution is motherboard replacement, which in all practicality is a phone replacement, but at the consumers cost without ever knowing if the fault is hardware or caused by a patch.
Links attached below to the bug tracker with these instances.
Since the engineering team is refusing to make an official statement as to the cause of the EDL issue, I would like to reserve the right to keep this trouble ticket open until an official position or statement is made.
The logic to me is simple, if it is truly a known hardware defect, it would have already been announced, since all of us affected by this issue would be voided of any recourse under expired warranties.
Citing the ubreakifix examples below, I will not send to a repair center for these reasons:
a) the cause is unknown to ubreakifix, and engineering team will not take a position
b) if the solution is to replace the motherboard, any evidence or proof of the EDL status is lost. In the event that Google will voluntarily or is mandated to compensate, I will need the phone to show EDL status to be compensated.
c) like the examples below, I will be asked to pay for repairs or pay for return shipping, without any concise diagnosis
I look forward to staying in touch to learn of the engineering team's response or the media's response.
Regards,
Jim
[links removed, they all reference messages in this tracker above]
bl...@gmail.com <bl...@gmail.com> #522
Thank you for your patience.
First, they have advised that our Google Engineers will look at the link you gave and provide a concrete solution on the matter. Second, they have decided to process a one time exception as long as there is no physical damage. Please provide your choice based on the options below. Also, we need your shipping details and consent for us to proceed processing your replacement. Please say YES, if you agree.
We really appreciate your continued patience and cooperation as we work to resolve this situation.
1. Advance Exchange: With Advanced Exchange we’ll provide you with a link to order your replacement device and it will ship to you within 2-7 business days before you need to send your defective device back. This way, you’re not without a phone and you can easily transfer your data from the old device to the new device.
Please note, this option will require an authorization hold (14 business days)on a credit or debit card for the full cost of the device, but once your defective device is returned- the authorization hold is removed from your card.
2. Standard Exchange: You may also opt for Standard return. In Standard exchange, you need to send in the defective device first and once received and inspected, we'll dispatch the replacement order. The complete process may take 5-10 business days.
Complete Name:
Shipping Address:
Phone#:
_____________________________
I chose standard exchange. My phone arrived to Dallas yesterday via prepaid FedEx shipping.
Upon receipt of the replacement Pixel 3 XL I will share my RMA #. I'm not totally convinced Google isn't monitoring this and will hold it against me somehow for sharing my RMA or case ID #.
Stay on them. I got this response only after being told "no" 4 times.
pw...@gmail.com <pw...@gmail.com> #523
sh...@gmail.com <sh...@gmail.com> #524
Has anybody tried these with luck?
thanks for any help. Is my soft brick different than what most are experiencing?
Who needs to arrange the class action suit here. Do it quickly before the Google 6. Google has a huge investment in keeping this quiet.
All the best,
ca...@gmail.com <ca...@gmail.com> #525
sh...@gmail.com <sh...@gmail.com> #526
pf...@gmail.com <pf...@gmail.com>
sh...@gmail.com <sh...@gmail.com> #527
Assuming the worst, here. But I seem to be in a different circumstance than most.
My phone is not completely unresponsive...though it is.
I seem to have the possibility at least of going into rescue, recovery, restart bootloader mode.
Look above at the image. The bar code does get me the bar code, so I assume the other three would move me someplace.
But I don't feel I have the knowledge to move around in there.
Is this what is called a "soft brick?" That there is a possibility of doing something?
Some have said to let the battery drain and then restart and the phone managed to. If I drain fully would there be a new start for fastboot mode, or it would start another way and the boot images would load properly.
Or should I just assume as I have that this is done.
My need is what is on the phone: documents, downloads, texts etc. My wife thinks some of those are at google and when I buy another phone I will get something back. On the other apps, Whatsapp, etc. is it the phone or the cloud where there is storage.
My apologies for the long note, but if somebody can clarify this, I guess I can move on.
Thank you, kindly.
bi...@gmail.com <bi...@gmail.com> #528
For those who got the phone replace out of warranty; was it a free replacement?
bl...@gmail.com <bl...@gmail.com> #529
bi...@gmail.com <bi...@gmail.com> #530
sh...@gmail.com <sh...@gmail.com> #531
bi...@gmail.com <bi...@gmail.com> #532
ka...@gmail.com <ka...@gmail.com> #533
jo...@gmail.com <jo...@gmail.com> #534
jo...@gmail.com <jo...@gmail.com> #535
sh...@gmail.com <sh...@gmail.com> #536
When I talked to a tech today, a little light. He showed me that our phones have an auto-back-up. I believe it does not however include all. I was told for instance that texts are saved on the phone. So gone. Not sure what is and isn't. But we should have something.
pw...@gmail.com <pw...@gmail.com> #537
pa...@gmail.com <pa...@gmail.com> #538
Sent it in and they told me it is an issue with power supply and replacement would be >200€. Seems like the service center is not up to date.... PLS FIX!
bi...@gmail.com <bi...@gmail.com> #539
bi...@gmail.com <bi...@gmail.com> #540
bl...@gmail.com <bl...@gmail.com> #541
Mine was replaced out of warranty as previously stated. Don't give up. Keep calling and don't take no for an answer. Blame them over and over again. Let them know it's 100% their fault and they owe you a replacement phone. That's what I did.
sh...@gmail.com <sh...@gmail.com> #542
Thank you.
bl...@gmail.com <bl...@gmail.com> #543
de...@gmail.com <de...@gmail.com> #544
ja...@gmail.com <ja...@gmail.com> #545
kj...@gmail.com <kj...@gmail.com> #546
sc...@gmail.com <sc...@gmail.com> #547
gp...@gmail.com <gp...@gmail.com> #548
Plugged into PC and received the same result as all the rest, Unknown device list as QUSB_BULK_CID:0402XXXXXXXXXXXX.
This is the Second Google Pixel I have owned that has just randomly stopped and failed. This is severely disappointing and makes me to never consider a GOOGLE product again. If this CANNOT be resolved, I will ACTIVELY campaign against anyone buying GOOGLE products in the future.
aq...@gmail.com <aq...@gmail.com> #549
while we all wait for Google to take some kind of general action to resolve this issue, I would like to try and figure out what might have caused our phones to "brick" and end up in EDL mode. At first I thought that it might be a firmware update pushed by Google that caused this. However, as far as I'm aware, a user needs to approve of any firmware update before it can be installed. From what I'm seeing here, there are many users experiencing the phone "bricking" while it's in use, and some waking up to the phone being dead.
I'm starting to lean towards the idea that it might have been some kind of system or core updates (I may be using the wrong terms here) that gets automatically pushed and updated via Google Play. This is the only way I can see that the phone can "brick" while it's the middle of being used, as the phone might receive a pushed update, installs the update, and that resulted in some kind of instruction to reboot and now the phone is stuck in EDL mode.
This is just a thought but might help if we can at least narrow down the cause. I still very much prefer if Google will take the right actions and try to figure out what's going by taking in these bricked phone at their own cost, and either fix them or replace them. If they can fix it and figure out a way to have users fix the issue on their own, I think that will quickly put out the flames.
ja...@gmail.com <ja...@gmail.com> #550
fr...@gmail.com <fr...@gmail.com> #551
maybe this was a "near-miss" and the circumstances can help google isolate the problem.
jj...@gmail.com <jj...@gmail.com> #552
My Pixel 3 XL has turned off out of the blue and bricked while I was using it in the car with Google Maps and Spotify running. I had all Google Play automatic updates turned off - it needed my manual action to update an app. So with that - my phone couldn't be bricked with Google Play automatic update. We probably need to look somewhere else :(
jc...@gmail.com <jc...@gmail.com> #553
Per the above linked article "Google confirms crashing issue" but then also "said it has 'nothing else to share' for now." :(
ja...@gmail.com <ja...@gmail.com> #554
th...@gmail.com <th...@gmail.com> #555
c....@gmail.com <c....@gmail.com> #556
t....@gmail.com <t....@gmail.com> #557
se...@gmail.com <se...@gmail.com> #558
jr...@gmail.com <jr...@gmail.com> #559
pw...@gmail.com <pw...@gmail.com> #560
Please help report this issue by clicking on “Contact Us” in the bottom of this page:
ca...@gmail.com <ca...@gmail.com> #561
ca...@gmail.com <ca...@gmail.com> #562
ra...@gmail.com <ra...@gmail.com> #563
bi...@gmail.com <bi...@gmail.com> #564
na...@gmail.com <na...@gmail.com> #565
I have a suspicion that those that are getting RMAs are from places with stronger consumer laws. Where support knows, those with weak consumer laws have no leverage and can be brushed off. My suggestion is just constantly harassing support but who knows what good that is.
As for the actual support experience. Good god it is awful. The amount of emails where I've asked direct questions that were subsequently ignored is astounding. Seems the plan of action within the support team is stone wall users. Has anyone here had any luck getting through to support.
For those who managed to get a phone call from support, how did you go about this and where are located?
bl...@gmail.com <bl...@gmail.com> #566
I did threaten to sue, but it didn't seem to affect them. They basically said "yea you can do that if you want".
I got a call by sending them an email and basically stating, I demand that you call me regarding this issue.
es...@gmail.com <es...@gmail.com> #567
I hope iPhones are better than I remember
bi...@gmail.com <bi...@gmail.com> #568
- From your Pixel phone: Go to Settings -> Tips & Support -> Contact Us,
you can ask for a call back
- From the web:
usually call you within a few minutes
- You can also call them directly at 855-836-1987
- If you are a Google One subscriber, request help from the Google One app
for priority support
I tried again yesterday and got the same out of warranty BS as usual, and
was told that legal action is an option if I choose. I did get an
escalation but they were busy and never did call me back. Several hours
later I got an email:
Your Google Support Inquiry: Case ID [4-7420000031742]
Thanks for contacting Google Support!
This is Adam, Pixel Support Supervisor.
I hope you are doing great. This is regarding your case about your device
not turning on. I understand that all troubleshooting were performed
already. Please be advised that the device warranty is already expired. Our
best option here is repair. Now, I understand that you don´t want to pay
for the repair fee. Unfortunately, we can no longer cover the repair fee
since warranty is up. I hope you understand that we did handle this case in
accordance to our policy.
Thanks!
Adam
The Google Support Team
I am trying to get this covered by the local news station here in the bay
area, in Google's back yard. Class actions never really benefit the consumer
On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 12:42 PM <buganizer-system@google.com> wrote:
ca...@gmail.com <ca...@gmail.com> #569
I got a bit further by getting escalation support. I googled "pixel 3 emd" and copy and pasted every android/pixel web site on the first page covering this expanding issue. I let them know this is a growing issue that is going to swallow them if they don't pay attention. I reminded them of the Iphone battery issue where they pushed software that "broke" iphones and how that tarnished Apple's image for quite some time.
The escalation support said he is escalating it further. They gave me their contact in email and said they will keep me up to date.
I did see in this blog of the many I posted to them, Google has responded to them saying they are looking into it.
They may just blow me off tomorrow, who knows.
ba...@gmail.com <ba...@gmail.com> #570
sh...@gmail.com <sh...@gmail.com> #571
Minimum update & support periods
Phone No guaranteed Android version updates after No guaranteed security updates after
Pixel 3 October 2021
October 2021
Is this part of the mix - for Google - at how they are reacting?
It still boggles the mind. I was planning to buy the Pixel 6 Pro, and I bet a considerable number here were thinking the same. I don't understand with the launch of 6, why Google is infuriating the 3s by their lack of response and action?
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aa...@gmail.com <aa...@gmail.com> #572
My 3XL bricked, so turned to the 1XL to use as a backup, only to have the same issue happen a couple days later.
I've spent hours chatting with Google and they only option they've given me after escalation is to send the phone in with a quote of $400 to repair. They make you put in a card to charge that amount should the repairs be needed.
se...@gmail.com <se...@gmail.com> #573
ga...@ghart.com <ga...@ghart.com> #574
I chatted with a Google rep; I was polite but very insistent. They just kept coming back with "We do value your loyalty. As the device is out of warranty and the device is not enrolled into device protection, there are no options available to replace or repair." They also refused to escalate the case (8-9575000031738).
ci...@gmail.com <ci...@gmail.com> #575
za...@gmail.com <za...@gmail.com> #576
So I'm actually the person who first filed this bug report, but I figured I would detail my experience a bit in case anyone is feeling hopeful that persistence will pay off.
The first time I reached out, they told me that my device was out of warranty, but "You can get the device repaired at our Google repair partner" which is UbreakiFix. I ended up taking it to UbreakiFix, and they told me they had no way of talking to a phone that doesn't turn on. They could try replacing the screen to see if it was a hardware issue, but they doubted it would work. After doing a good bit of research, starting this thread, and eventually coming to the conclusion that I'm out of luck until they release the firehose files, I reached out again, mainly to see if I would get lucky and they would forward it along to the correct engineering team. I was told they were aware of the issue, but there was nothing else they could say about it at this time.
Then I shared one of the articles on reddit, and I commented about how it happened to me, and I got this DM from one of the google support staff:
I work for the Pixel Community team and saw your post about your Pixel 3 not turning on. We’d like to investigate this further. If you’ve already contacted customer support, can you please share your case ID (will look like this x-xxxxxxxxxxxxx) so I can escalate this issue to the appropriate team?
So I reached back out, assuming this means they are interested in investigating further and hopefully finding the root cause of the issue. This made it even more frustrating when I got the same canned response:
I've checked the details of the IMEI number and noticed that the device is out of warranty. However, not to worry, you can create a repair order either online or in person at a repair location. We've 2 types of repair options
I exchange ~10 emails with the person until they stopped responding to me, detailing how the warranty status is irrelevant when the issue is one caused by an OTA update, not one that would lead to a warranty repair; and the repair is a minimum of $411 even though a refurbished phone is available directly from Google for $250. They insisted that the issue could not be escalated any higher, and "The best possible option in this case is to get the device repaired."
So I'm not sure why they reached back out to me, but I do know that there is no way I'm buying another pixel device until they show that they are willing to stand behind their hardware and provide the support required. It's definitely frustrating, but I do still wish everyone the best of luck in getting a customer service representative who is actually trying to solve problems instead of copy and paste links to their repair page.
jo...@gmail.com <jo...@gmail.com> #577
je...@gmail.com <je...@gmail.com> #578
ta...@gmail.com <ta...@gmail.com> #579
This is not an issue that should be handled under warranty, but instead handled under the common sense principle that many people (myself included) will never invest in a phone from a company that won't fix an issue that is clearly related to either elapsed time or a flawed update. The fact that so many people are experiencing this issue in such a small window of time is significant.
I want a replacement, or the value of a replacement device applied to a new model.
na...@gmail.com <na...@gmail.com> #580
So incredibly frustrating.
in...@gmail.com <in...@gmail.com> #581
an...@gmail.com <an...@gmail.com> #582
pw...@gmail.com <pw...@gmail.com> #583
tr...@gmail.com <tr...@gmail.com> #584
What if I had an emergency????
I was raised to take care of my things, this phone has not been dropped or been exposed to water. This is not my fault, and I need this corrected.
bi...@gmail.com <bi...@gmail.com> #585
So my suggestion to everyone is: Open a case with them and keep telling them this is a KNOWN ISSUE; they will push back and tell you that your phone is out of warranty; but keep telling them to escalate the ticket.
Hope this helps ya'll. I'm not sure if I can trust google anymore; but there camera is awesome.
Maybe I'll give oneplus a try; since they don't bloat ware there phones and reasonably price.
xe...@gmail.com <xe...@gmail.com> #586
Sad, was waiting for the Pixel 6 but now will look into other phones
pc...@gmail.com <pc...@gmail.com> #587
I have been going to and fro google support for 2 months now on and off and they are still refusing to sort this out as it's "out of warranty".
I miss my 3 XL :(
re...@gmail.com <re...@gmail.com> #588
fi...@gmail.com <fi...@gmail.com> #589
Died out of nowhere, never dropped the phone and it was working just fine before it just turned off and is apparently in EDL mode showing up as QUSB_BULK_CID on my PC.
Phone is about 3 years old, and I'm in Europe so apparently I can't talk to Google support - they won't call me and I can find zero options of contacting them from here.
k....@gmail.com <k....@gmail.com> #590
da...@gmail.com <da...@gmail.com> #591
loved my pixel 3. Its so annoying!!!
aq...@gmail.com <aq...@gmail.com> #592
As someone above mentioned, everyone here with the same issues we're all having, please make sure to take some time to open a ticket with them, so they will have more records of the issue. I don't necessarily think they're keeping track of the number of cases based on people's posts here, so if you want the situation eventually resolved, do your part and open your ticket.
To open a ticket, go to
bl...@gmail.com <bl...@gmail.com> #593
I ended up not having to send mine off because Google RMAd mine. But I had the shipping label printed and had already spoke with UBIF. The main thing is to find a corporate location and not an independently owned UBIF.
bi...@gmail.com <bi...@gmail.com> #594
free inspection. I had denied the $400+tax motherboard replacement, so I
guess the free shipping is only if you pay them to service your phone.
On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 1:56 PM <buganizer-system@google.com> wrote:
pe...@gmail.com <pe...@gmail.com> #595
Thank you for contacting Google Support.
I have discussed this case with my concerned team and would like to let you know that we only consider the emerging issue which are listed under our internal trix and this is not an ongoing issue with Pixel 3.
I would request you to get in touch with the CTDI which is our official repair partner.
If you have additional questions, feel free to reply to this email or initiate a chat/phone with our support team.
oz...@gmail.com <oz...@gmail.com> #596
So now I have the phone back. The options I really have are (1) taking them to court - would cost me about $150 and a ton of time to go through small claims with a fairly slim chance of anything happening given any definitive analysis can only be done by Google themselves (we need right to repair laws); and (2) write a complaint to the ACCC, which may get legs if enough other Aussies do the same thing.
As I've said before, I'm done with Google hardware. I'm done with recommending it, and I'm now fairly vocal in my opinions against it.
mu...@gmail.com <mu...@gmail.com> #597
lc...@gmail.com <lc...@gmail.com> #598
Here's what it took, it took 30+ emails and I was relentless on social media (Facebook and Twitter, posted about it on every post they made, every ad). I would not take no for answer . Each time they said no, I told them to escalate me to the next person.
tv...@gmail.com <tv...@gmail.com> #599
sh...@gmail.com <sh...@gmail.com> #600
Curious what sort of guarantee they gave you onthe replacement phone? Since they aren't acknowledging the cause, how are they guaranteeing that it will not happen again? Or if they can guarantee it, then they know exactly the cause and repaired it on the replacement phones. Curious and curiouser.
ni...@gmail.com <ni...@gmail.com> #601
bi...@gmail.com <bi...@gmail.com> #602
---
Thank you for your response, however unsatisfactory it may be.
I understand that the device is no longer under warranty, however this is
not a one off case, or any doing of my own cause. The device has never been
dropped, has never been exposed to water, has no screen damage, or any
other physical damage, and has a perfectly working battery. It has never
been rooted, or had the device bootloader unlocked for any reason.
A manufacturing defect has caused the device too reboot into EDL mode. It
is effectively hard bricked and unrecoverable without the appropriate
firehose files, which are not made available to the public, or even to
Google authorized repair centers.
This defect has already affected thousands of Pixel devices worldwide, with
more falling victim every day. Predominately the Pixel 3 and Pixel 3 XL,
but all current Pixel devices are at risk. The issue is known by, and has
been acknowledged by Google, without a viable fix available. The issue is
reported on the Google Issue Tracker and has been covered by most major
tech sites around the world. There are class action suits being formed
against Google as a result.
The only "fix" is to replace the motherboard at the owners expense, which
is $400+tax, more than a refurbished Pixel 3, or other competing devices,
even from Google themselves. Replacing the motherboard is only a temporary
fix, as the new motherboard could be bricked shortly later as well.
I have already taken my device to uBreakIfix, and was given the assessment
that the motherboard needs replaced. I have also verified that the device
is stuck in EDL mode as lsusb reports QUSB_BULK_CID.
I am aware that many Pixel owners affected by this issue have been issued
at an out of warranty replacement. I am giving you, and Google, this one
exclusive opportunity to make the situation correct by offering an out of
warranty exchange, or full trade-in value on a new Pixel device, before
having to be forced into litigation.
---
I'm sure it will get be nowhere, but I'll let you know if and how's they
respond. Feel free to use it as a template for your own communications.
On Wed, Sep 22, 2021, 8:43 PM <buganizer-system@google.com> wrote:
ja...@gmail.com <ja...@gmail.com> #603
Going to UBreakIFix later for supposedly free diagnostics. That way they can tell me the same thing they are telling everyone else, there’s nothing we can do!
lk...@gmail.com <lk...@gmail.com> #604
With the number of users experiencing the same issue, it is unethical for Google to completely ignore the issue and to keep giving people the same lame responses. I am sure the customer support staff members are embarrassed about having to send those lame responses, but they have their instructions from their management. It is time to switch back to iPhone. BTW there are great deals on iPhone 13!
mj...@gmail.com <mj...@gmail.com> #605
The phone was purchased from the Google store and out of warranty.
yu...@invitae.com <yu...@invitae.com> #606
bv...@gmail.com <bv...@gmail.com> #607
br...@gmail.com <br...@gmail.com> #608
by...@gmail.com <by...@gmail.com> #609
ma...@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> #610
jj...@gmail.com <jj...@gmail.com> #611
sh...@gmail.com <sh...@gmail.com> #612
So its looks like an EDL mode
Google support and chat just tell you to go to a repair shop...and the repair shop say its dead.
an...@gmail.com <an...@gmail.com> #613
mi...@gmail.com <mi...@gmail.com> #614
site that indicates they are doing some replacements. But they apply site
Reddit and probably this thread...
On Thu., Sep. 23, 2021, 1:37 p.m. , <buganizer-system@google.com> wrote:
ja...@gmail.com <ja...@gmail.com> #615
le...@gmail.com <le...@gmail.com> #616
oz...@gmail.com <oz...@gmail.com> #617
wa...@gmail.com <wa...@gmail.com> #618
Phone was on a wired charger overnight while sleeping.
Android 12 beta
he...@gmail.com <he...@gmail.com> #619
So... I got a replacement Pixel 3 XL through the RMA process. I'm from Australia so I used the Australian Consumer Law as part of my argument (sorry everyone else...). If you're from Australia (i.e. #595 & #596), you can try to escalate and send them the following written email listing out:
1. Purchase history (where, when and how much)
2. Description of the issue, steps taken to troubleshoot and repair and/or examples of the issue occurring elsewhere
3. What your expected outcome should be
4. Set a reasonable timeframe to resolve or reply
The Vic Consumer website has a good overview of the process and template letters to send:
The following is what I sent to them:
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This is a technical software issue which should be covered under the Australian Consumer Law.
The product was purchased on X from the online Australian Google Store at a cost of $X.
See attached the receipt.
The phone was working on the night of X but was not working on the morning of X.
I have tried all the troubleshooting steps as mentioned in the chat support (X -> add chat ref no., dates etc.) , which included the following:
Holding the power button for 30 seconds
Charging the phone (both wired and wirelessly, and using the original charger)
These steps did not resolve the issue.
When I was looking into the problem, I connected the phone into my laptop. The device was showing up as a 'QUSB-BULK-CID' device (see attached).
Through searching online, it seems that this problem I'm encountering is occurring on phones across the world as seen in users evidence posted on multiple websites:
While the phone has minor physical damage from wear and tear, such as small scratches and minor screen cracks (see attached photo), these did not cause the issue where the phone has completely stopped working due to total software failure.
It is unreasonable that the phone will stop working due to a software issue only after 2 years, whereas phone plans are available for up to 3 years.
I am within my rights to request a replacement or repair of the faulty product either by Google, or full compensation if I have to pay for the repairs myself. I would appreciate this matter being resolved within the next 10 business days.
If I do not hear from you within 10 business days, I will forward my complaint to Consumer Affairs Victoria for further advice.
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They sent the following reply, which I think is absolutely disgraceful:
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Appreciate your patience while we were working on this. I have got an update from our internal team and happy to inform you that exception to replace the device has been approved.
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I really hope this helps someone... I've pretty peeved off (even if I did get a replacement) with Google on how they treat us and handle this situation. The fact they had to make an 'exception' really makes it seem like Google hopes this is swept under the rug and will not admit fault at all.
oz...@gmail.com <oz...@gmail.com> #620
ra...@gmail.com <ra...@gmail.com> #621
fi...@gmail.com <fi...@gmail.com> #622
ni...@gmail.com <ni...@gmail.com> #623
go...@gmail.com <go...@gmail.com> #624
ga...@ghart.com <ga...@ghart.com> #625
[Deleted User] <[Deleted User]> #626
pv...@gmail.com <pv...@gmail.com> #627
dk...@gmail.com <dk...@gmail.com> #628
sh...@gmail.com <sh...@gmail.com> #629
I have been waiting for a promised supervisor to call me back for days now. No responsibilty. No respect. In the end no professionalism.
I needed a phone so even though I am expecting consideration from Google, I bought an interim phone and paid for expedited shipping. The phone didn't arrive in the expected period which Google deemed. We had to phone FEDEX. Although we paid for expedited, Google delivered it as standard. I will repeat that. Although we were charged for expedited shipping, Google Fi delivered it as standard. Then I wasted more time with a Google Fi rep who told me: "Want to be honest with you, to not to set proper expetations beyond the power of control."
Or in his case, no control and an hour wasted. The phone is actually in my city and there are hours left for delivery from FedEx today. But they will not even take off the expedited fee, and I will have to after the late
delivery recontact them.
In every way Google, acts with a complete disregard for the customer. We have all had the same disregard heaved on us when we have to continually call and waste our time. Why isn't Google racing to right this. I still can't understand with the roll out of Google 6 which I among many Google 3 owners were anticipating what is in it for Google to infuriate their loyal customers like this.
dk...@gmail.com <dk...@gmail.com> #630
So, if you come here looking for some hope on getting a replacement, don't. I've been using Fi since it was called Project Fi and I've only bought nexus and pixel phones. I was shown no loyalty, no compassion, just a faceless voice telling me that it's my fault that I bought the Pixel 3.
fe...@gmail.com <fe...@gmail.com> #631
dk...@gmail.com <dk...@gmail.com> #633
ma...@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> #634
ma...@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> #635
kl...@gmail.com <kl...@gmail.com> #636
sp...@gmail.com <sp...@gmail.com> #637
jt...@gmail.com <jt...@gmail.com> #638
How do they expect us to be excited about any new Google products if they can't even own up to these type of problems that are not caused by the user?
pv...@gmail.com <pv...@gmail.com> #639
mi...@gmail.com <mi...@gmail.com> #640
bl...@gmail.com <bl...@gmail.com> #641
On the phone again with Google at this moment to see what they will do.
w1...@gmail.com <w1...@gmail.com> #642
ru...@gmail.com <ru...@gmail.com> #643
to...@gmail.com <to...@gmail.com> #644
re...@gmail.com <re...@gmail.com> #645
time I've had contact with the Pixel and Nexus teams after warranty, I
didn't bother contacting them. Now I want a replacement too! Even a Google
store credit would be a nice gesture.
On Sun, Sep 26, 2021, 12:22 <buganizer-system@google.com> wrote:
ma...@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> #646
Now, do the responsible thing and fix us.
If I destroyed hundreds of dollars of Google property, I'd be in jail.
You destroyed HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS of our property.
da...@gmail.com <da...@gmail.com> #647
(Note: It is the build when sending this report. For exact build reference, please see the attached bugreport.)
Debugging information
Layanan Google Play
com.google.android.gms
Version 213614053 (21.36.14 (190400-395708125))
System App (Updated)
Android System WebView
com.google.android.webview
Version 457708233 (93.0.4577.82)
System App (Updated)
Network operator: TSEL-PAKAIMASKER
SIM operator: Telkomsel
Filed by Android Beta Feedback. Version (Updated): 2.20-betterbug.external_20210805_RC02
To learn more about our feedback process, please visit
da...@gmail.com <da...@gmail.com> #648
ca...@gmail.com <ca...@gmail.com> #649
pw...@gmail.com <pw...@gmail.com> #650
"Thank you for contacting Google Support.
I'm sorry to know that the troubleshooting didn't work. Thanks for highlighting this issue to us. I want to inform you that we haven't received any official information from our internal team if it's an known issue. I would suggest you to try resetting your device bootloader menu."
Case ID [7-7225000032008]
wi...@gmail.com <wi...@gmail.com> #651
aq...@gmail.com <aq...@gmail.com> #652
re...@gmail.com <re...@gmail.com> #653
ga...@gmail.com <ga...@gmail.com> #654
bg...@gmail.com <bg...@gmail.com> #655
cm...@gmail.com <cm...@gmail.com> #656
ia...@cazabat.com <ia...@cazabat.com> #657
ja...@gmail.com <ja...@gmail.com> #658
After a lot of haggling and back and forth, I've gotten Google to agree to replacement my bricked Pixel 3 with a new Pixel 4 device. At first they offered only a Pixel 3 (which obviously I said no way), then only a refurbished Pixel 4 (which I also said no way). They have agreed to a new Pixel 4 device and I'm waiting to hear back to confirm they aren't having the same bricking issue and that it will also carry a new device warranty.
Bottom line Google has had an awful response to this issue suddenly destroying the Pixel 3 phones and the only way to get a response from them is persistence and stubbornness.
oz...@gmail.com <oz...@gmail.com> #659
ra...@gmail.com <ra...@gmail.com> #660
And what does S3 severity mean?
PS: I already commented in this thread that my P3 is bricked.
cd...@gmail.com <cd...@gmail.com> #661
Went to set up my pixel 3a for my daughter about a week ago Did the factory reset, UPDATED (I didn't know😭. At the time, I couldn't fathom this happening.) Walked away, when I came back it wasn't charging anymore, and it's been dead ever since. WTF Google
co...@bodcare.com <co...@bodcare.com> #662
This is one time that the company must in good faith and public relations to act positively
ta...@gmail.com <ta...@gmail.com> #663
ro...@gmail.com <ro...@gmail.com> #664
My wife and I have the same issues with our 2 3xl phones. We love our pixel devices and chose them over Samsung. Based on Googles lack luster response on this "unknown issue" we may switch to another phone provider. Granted we had our phones for 3 years now, we didn't see any reason to upgrade. I still have my nexus 5 and 6P phones....
ta...@gmail.com <ta...@gmail.com> #665
ga...@gmail.com <ga...@gmail.com> #666
ja...@gmail.com <ja...@gmail.com> #667
an...@gmail.com <an...@gmail.com> #668
ga...@ghart.com <ga...@ghart.com> #669
da...@gmail.com <da...@gmail.com> #670
ru...@gmail.com <ru...@gmail.com> #671
Therefore “only” about ONE in TEN THOUSAND is “defective”.
From Google point of view this is “probably” “acceptable”.
The “odds” of being bricked is “very low” (1 in 10,000)
Of course, this is no consolation to those whose phones are bricked.
It would probably take a MUCH HIGHER number of bricked phones to move Google.
As #617 speculated, maybe it is caused by flash memory not being properly wear levelled
my...@gmail.com <my...@gmail.com> #672
Google -- HOW IS THIS OKAY? You cant just wreck peoples phones and do nothing!
ta...@gmail.com <ta...@gmail.com> #673
Would the average person plug the device into a computer, get the error code, Google that, and find this post? I don't think so. I think many would either contact their provider directly for a replacement or put it in a drawer and buy a new phone because they rely on it and can't go without it.
co...@gmail.com <co...@gmail.com> #674
sa...@gmail.com <sa...@gmail.com> #675
Regardless of the number of customers affected, I think it's a shame how Google is handling this situation... diehard fans are becoming haters. I wish Google would do the right thing and help us.
mi...@waychison.com <mi...@waychison.com> #676
and as somebody who has used google's Android phones since the beginning.
I believe I have witnessed the issues reported here on our devices at
various times, but am not sure. I hope my words below may help some of
those following this thread.
The symptoms are as follows: the device "turns off", with the screen going
blank, seemingly off / black, but still powered (hard to tell due to OLED).
This seems like a hard crash of some sort, where the device is locked and
wont easily reset. We've also witnessed it do this and then come up with a
small text warning about "corruption" and being unable to boot.
When this has happened in the past, we have been able to recover the phone
through some combination of holding the both the Power key and either the
Volume Down or Volume Up key, for more than 40 seconds. I think it is
volume down, but frankly it seems to change between phones so if one
doesn't work try the other. Usually this will eventually trigger the phone
to reboot and often get into either recovery mode or fastboot mode, both of
which you should be able to navigate and reboot the device correctly. If it
doesn't work, I usually just try switching to the other combination a few
times and it usually works.
If you leave the phone in this broken state for long enough, it seems to
slowly drain your battery in a bad way. When trying to recover from this,
I've found it useful in the past to do as others have mentioned and use a
"dumb" USB power source. Something not a computer that will negotiate or
sense and possibly power down the port, as it is possible that the phone
may not be able to negotiate power well when the battery is completely
flat. This is what others mean when suggesting using an "AC adapter" up
thread. 12V-USB car adapters seem to work as well. This seems to be less an
issue with the electronics in the 3 XL, however it might help.
oz...@gmail.com <oz...@gmail.com> #677
pa...@gmail.com <pa...@gmail.com> #678
So far, I'm lucky. My 3XL is still alive, auto-updates turned off. But I live with constant worry that I'll wake up with a doorstop next to my bed, not my smartphone. I monitor a currently vacant home remotely via the phone, so if it dies, I lose critical alerts. Likewise I run some cloud servers - hosted within google and others - that I'll lose alerts for if it dies.
I don't need the stress. And I'll happily spend my thousand bucks elsewhere if another brand shows willingness to treat customers as valuable assets *after* they've gotten their thousand bucks from me. S21 Ultra? Maybe. OnePlus 9 Pro? Maybe. There are other phones besides the yet-to-be-released Pixel 6 Pro out there. The 'pure android' experience has been a pleasure. I'm sure I can adapt to a different 'distro' if need be.
pa...@gmail.com <pa...@gmail.com> #679
le...@googlemail.com <le...@googlemail.com> #680
I actually bought a broken screen phone second hand in June after putting up with my Essential Phone for a while and then I repaired it myself by transferring the insides of the phone from ebay to the case of my phone. It's got a working screen etc now where the phone from ebay had a broken screen.
Be interested in knowing if a fix ends up being found for this, I must have had one of the first phones to die because of this issue. Again, it was stock, no root etc. Most it had was possible developer options enabled.
gu...@gmail.com <gu...@gmail.com> #681
It was fine the night before, plugged it in, went to sleep, and it was dead in the morning. Completely stock, unlocked from my phone provider.
I have also tried letting it die out completely (I assume, no way to check) and charging afterwards for fun. It lights up on my wireless charger and shows up as "QUSB_BULK_CID:XXXX_SN:XXXXXXXX" when plugged into my pc.
Holding power button will have it disappear from my device manager and show up a few seconds later.
Very cool Google, thankyou.
re...@gmail.com <re...@gmail.com> #682
Which address was it coming from? I've made zero progress with folks at the device-support@google.com people.
This is beyond frustrating.
pa...@gmail.com <pa...@gmail.com> #683
ma...@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> #684
ga...@ghart.com <ga...@ghart.com> #685
pa...@gmail.com <pa...@gmail.com> #686
sa...@gmail.com <sa...@gmail.com> #687
pa...@gmail.com <pa...@gmail.com> #688
Disassociating oneself entirely from google is damn nigh impossible, so i'm not going to even try, but dropping many hundreds of bucks/a grand in google's pocket is definitely not going to happen. You want my business - beyond sniffing my email for ad opportunities and such? You'll have to earn my trust back. We'll see how the Pixel 7 Pro turns out in a couple of years, and how the 6 pro has fared in that interval. Now to figure out which carrier to switch to from Google Fi...
ra...@gmail.com <ra...@gmail.com> #689
re...@gmail.com <re...@gmail.com> #690
On Thu, Sep 30, 2021, 11:10 <buganizer-system@google.com> wrote:
dk...@gmail.com <dk...@gmail.com> #691
ra...@gmail.com <ra...@gmail.com> #692
dk...@gmail.com <dk...@gmail.com> #693
You're right about the PR thing, Google has only read from a script which says take it to UBreakIFix along with stuff like 'No Warranty' and 'I dont know what you are talking about <click>'.
wd...@gmail.com <wd...@gmail.com> #694
oz...@gmail.com <oz...@gmail.com> #695
db...@gmail.com <db...@gmail.com> #696
ca...@gmail.com <ca...@gmail.com> #697
ri...@gmail.com <ri...@gmail.com> #698
ca...@gmail.com <ca...@gmail.com> #699
Google has shipped my replacement Pixel 3 and it should be here Monday. I will let you know if it craps out after setting it up. I did ask and there is like a 90 day warranty on the refurb if you get one.
ok...@gmail.com <ok...@gmail.com> #700
an...@gmail.com <an...@gmail.com> #701
What you need to do is let your device’s battery completely drain out so that it turns off. When that happens, plug-in your device into the charger and keep it in that state for a few minutes. Then unplug your device and power it on, it should now directly boot to the OS, bypassing the EDL Mode.
ta...@gmail.com <ta...@gmail.com> #702
ca...@gmail.com <ca...@gmail.com> #703
My guess is they want to get their hands on several to get a better handle on this issue and are doing so on a certain number for persistent customers. I have no idea.
I will let you know if my replacement bricks. My wife also has one that hasn't bricked yet.
re...@gmail.com <re...@gmail.com> #704
sounds like the same message.
On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 11:46 AM <buganizer-system@google.com> wrote:
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This message and any attachments are for the designated recipient only and
are confidential and may contain privileged, proprietary or otherwise
private information. If you are not a named recipient, please notify the
sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of this email by
you is prohibited. Use beyond your sole knowledge must be requested by the
sender.
na...@gmail.com <na...@gmail.com> #705
ki...@gmail.com <ki...@gmail.com> #706
jb...@gmail.com <jb...@gmail.com> #707
am...@gmail.com <am...@gmail.com> #708
The email I got with the offer to replace my device and the RMA number/shipping label was the device-support@google.com email address.
Full disclosure I was out of town for a couple weeks so I haven't sent my phone in for replacement yet but I did receive an RMA number and return label from that email address.
jo...@gmail.com <jo...@gmail.com> #709
I'd like to let you know that you've reached the highest level of support and we have provided the relevant options available to you from our end which is getting the device repaired through our repair partners or ship the device to Google for repair. I've also reviewed the links you've shared with us and currently there aren't any replacements being processed for the devices being out of warranty and would also suggest you to refrain from referring to any third party sites as it might not have the complete and official information.
I'm sorry if this disappoints you but we have tried our best to help you with the alternate solution. If you've any other questions, please don't hesitate to contact us. We'll be happy to help!
sf...@gmail.com <sf...@gmail.com> #710
How about we get an official response from Google about why Pixel 3s are failing at an alarming rate, then, instead of leaving us to rampant speculation? Let those of us with a broken phone make informed decisions about repair vs replace. For those whose phones are still working, help them take measures to protect themselves.
ca...@rego.io <ca...@rego.io> #711
ca...@gmail.com <ca...@gmail.com> #712
If no solution is presented asap I see no other alternative than buying a new phone (different brand of course).
wa...@gmail.com <wa...@gmail.com> #713
wa...@gmail.com <wa...@gmail.com> #714
we...@gmail.com <we...@gmail.com> #715
I went to bed, leaving my Pixel 3 XL unplugged, woke up the next morning with it completely bricked. The screen is completely black and when I plug it into my computer I see the device as QUSB_BULK_CID:0402_SN:<redacted>.
ke...@gmail.com <ke...@gmail.com> #716
ev...@gmail.com <ev...@gmail.com> #717
ev...@gmail.com <ev...@gmail.com> #718
I loved my pixel but this not amusing. And what bothers me is that this issue is reported for so long. You should expect a phone in this segment would last longer than the warranty period. And it's not even the customers fault.
Google please help is out here.
le...@gmail.com <le...@gmail.com> #719
same price I bought a pixel4a...
Le lun. 4 oct. 2021, 12:58, <buganizer-system@google.com> a écrit :
bi...@gmail.com <bi...@gmail.com> #720
jo...@gmail.com <jo...@gmail.com> #721
je...@gmail.com <je...@gmail.com> #722
Got the reply from Google after shipping my phone to them so they can inspect my device.
You’ve qualified for a replacement Based on the inspection, we’ve found that repairing your device costs more than replacing it. Therefore, you’ve qualified for a fully refurbished replacement. It'll be the same model as your device but may be a different color. With your approval, we’ll charge you and prepare to ship you the replacement. Cost is $481.00 plus tax.
iv...@gmail.com <iv...@gmail.com> #723
la...@gmail.com <la...@gmail.com> #724
The fact that Google has been aware of the problem and has "nothing to add" is ridiculous. I'd intended to upgrade, but at this point, I don't know if I'd be willing to risk another Google phone that might shut down the next time they have a big launch planned.
m....@gmail.com <m....@gmail.com> #725
I am #725. My 3XL phone is bricked from updating last night, i'm assuming. It had the 'Google' Screen on for like 5 hours until I unplugged. No rebooting trick worked. Saw the QUSB_BULK_CID briefly when plugging into computer this morning. Have not been able to replicate. I want to stay with Google and get that P6, considering this is my first time posting to something like this. Waiting in line to talk with support (3 hours now). I hope this gets seen and recognized. Kinda silly on Google to brick old phones before a new release rather than after.
ch...@googlemail.com <ch...@googlemail.com> #726
Google clearly released and update that has broken a large number of premium phones - surely something has to be done???
an...@gmail.com <an...@gmail.com> #727
ia...@cazabat.com <ia...@cazabat.com> #728
I was originally #459, but I figured I'd update here, since I've got an RMA for a free replacement. I'll post all the details here, but here's the rough overview of what I did:
- Start off with a chat to support, explaining the issue with the bricked phone & you know it's out of warranty, mention this bug tracker & QUSB_BULK_CID in device manager. Be prepared to do the basic troubleshooting (it's in their script, they have to do it) and for them to eventually send you to ubreakifix for service.
- Call/go in to ubreakifix (or take in for estimate) they'll tell you they either can't fix it, or it'll be a motherboard for $600. Decline service.
- Get back on chat with Google, tell them you previously chatted about your out of warranty Pixel 3 & tell them ubreakifix can't fix this cost effectively. Ask for them to escalate your ticket to the next level of support.
- Repeat previous info to tier-2 support. Remind them that you didn't do anything to cause the failure. Odds are, they'll look into the issue and email you back later.
- When they email you back, they'll likely offer mail-in repair for ~$400. Reply that it isn't cost effective & reference this bugtracker. Ask them to escalate your ticket.
The key is to be extremely nice the entire time. You can show a little frustration, but remember no foul language or yelling (if you're on the phone). It is up to their discretion if they help you, so be nice & they might be more likely to help you out.
pi...@gmail.com <pi...@gmail.com> #729
- Rub your belly
- Do a backflip
- Do another backflip, but forward
- Eat a shoe
- Go wait in line at the DMV
- Call your aunt Martha, who likes to talk for HOURS
- Now MAYBE we'll replace the phone that WE broke (but only if you talk
nice to us)
On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 4:18 PM <buganizer-system@google.com> wrote:
br...@brionyryles.co.uk <br...@brionyryles.co.uk> #730
jd...@gmail.com <jd...@gmail.com> #731
es...@gmail.com <es...@gmail.com> #732
And at the end, nothing. I will keep trying.
On the other hand I went and got me a iPhone 13 pro, and I am super happy. This after being super loyal to Android and being annoyed at how apple gates you in their ecosystem. But I just want things that work, with a company that will go and fix their issues when they have them. So I guess it's done for Android for this family of 4
ba...@gmail.com <ba...@gmail.com> #733
After a few years when my phones start to get older, I like to breathe new
life into them with a custom ROM... I didn't do it this time (was running
the developer's version of 12), but I'll be that I could have "saved" my
phone that way.
On Fri, Oct 8, 2021 at 2:46 PM <buganizer-system@google.com> wrote:
co...@gmail.com <co...@gmail.com> #734
ri...@gmail.com <ri...@gmail.com> #735
lj...@gmail.com <lj...@gmail.com> #736
jl...@gmail.com <jl...@gmail.com> #737
sh...@gmail.com <sh...@gmail.com> #738
We know you are busily analyzing why this case reproduced.
But before that, would you please share the recovery TOOL/METABUILD for us to recovery the phone? So far as I know, we need the meta build to reflash the bootloader via the EDL diag port.
Regards,
Shaoxu
an...@gmail.com <an...@gmail.com> #739
We know you are busily analyzing why this case reproduced.
But before that, would you please share the recovery TOOL/METABUILD for us to recovery the phone? So far as I know, we need the meta build to reflash the bootloader via the EDL diag port.
Regards,
Antonio (pixel 3xl bricked while upgrade beta android 12)
al...@gmail.com <al...@gmail.com> #740
"
Thanks for reaching out to Google support. Hope you're doing good.This is
Emma, one of the supervisors at Google support. Hope you're doing good.
I understand that your device shows black screen despite performing all the
possible steps and I also see that you have been offered repair options to
get the issue fixed.
Since the device is far outside the warranty period, we are helping you
with the repair options as an alternative. Had there been an option to
replace, I'd have definitely helped you. Hope you understand the
limitations towards warranty policy.
Please go ahead with either Ubreakifix or Google Mail-in repair. Rest
assured, our partners are very competent and the will definitely fix the
issue once and for all."
The next message is all the same. Word for word. Copy pasted. Google
ultimately said, Out of warranty, not our responsibility.
...
Yes, you can use their repair options, but as has been pointed out, the
repair cost is going to amount to $400+. I was going to upgrade to pixel 6
and use my now-bricked pixel 3xl as a backup camera. I purchased this phone
for about $800 USD directly from Google Store but it only lasted for about
2.5 years. For the price I paid, I expected a lot better customer service,
especially from Google, but my latest customer support experiences were
terrible and Google simply doesn't want to admit fault in this rampant
issues found in Pixel 3
Hopefully Google invests their time to release a fix instead of turning
their back on the loyal customers.
On Mon, Oct 4, 2021, 8:33 AM <buganizer-system@google.com> wrote:
jd...@gmail.com <jd...@gmail.com> #741
I can't imagine why a company would make such a stupid support decision. Serious fail on Googles part. At this point, I don't think I'll ever trust another of their products. Too many good products have been shuttered (Inbox, Play Music, etc), and they simply don't invest the resources to get what remains to be excellent.
Should have taken note from Asus and others who replaced graphics cards that got fried unexpectedly (talking $1500+ RTX 3090's). There's an example of taking care of customers.
am...@gmail.com <am...@gmail.com> #742
Google agreed to replace my phone. They actually reached out to me as a result of my posting on this thread out of the blue (I previously posted the email I received from device support). I had not yet reached out to customer service directly at the time as I had just started looking into the issue to see if it was something I could fix myself (out of warranty). They requested I send my device in for evaluation with a replacement to be sent to me.
Additionally, I voiced concern by email that I have several Pixel 3 devices on my account and I am worried of losing others at the drop of a hat. They went and sent me an "exception" upgrade to a Pixel 5 no additional questions asked under a different RMA and it arrived yesterday before I even sent my P3 in for eval. Refurb, but still.
I sent in my P3 brick under the original RMA yesterday. No idea why I got the royal treatment. And no, I am not a Google employee.
am...@gmail.com <am...@gmail.com> #743
Case ID [7-5771000031494]
RMA73462936
na...@gmail.com <na...@gmail.com> #744
Here from Spain!
Just the same problem with my Pixel 3XL last September 4. My phone was charging and I woke up next to a dead Google Pixel 3XL. Nothing is working anymore. I also see the device as QUSB_BULK_CID etc, like everyone here.
I just contacted to Google by telephone, my device is out of warranty. I don't know what to do.
ro...@gmail.com <ro...@gmail.com> #745
ti...@gmail.com <ti...@gmail.com> #746
I bought the Pixel 3XL brand new from the Google Store in 2018. It was a pricey investment, but I wanted a great camera. Now the bricked phone has lost my access to hundreds of pictures I've taken. I've read that this could be an easy fix if Google would release the program files. I also read the Google is offering replacement phones to some customers, but I'm not sure what the criteria is.
da...@gmail.com <da...@gmail.com> #747
dg...@gmail.com <dg...@gmail.com> #748
I see a QUSB_BULK_CID:0402_SN:A0B97E3C when connected under my devices
ji...@gmail.com <ji...@gmail.com> #749
thread. It was very valuable knowledge.
I have been sent an "exception replacement" - my recommendations below.
* have demonstrable evidence that you indeed get the QUSB_BULK_CID in
device manager
** snapshot/video of device detection, for example
* find and document, in device properties, that the device power state is =
D0
** D0 means that the device is in a FULLY ON state
* be able to explain the implications of what EDL mode is and why QUSB_BULK
appears
** the EDL mode is a primary bootloader by Qualcomm that allows reflashing
of the secondary bootloader (Google's OS)
* cut and paste reports from here that going to ubreakifix resolves nothing
Deny that this is a request for warranty service. Request an exception
replacement due to software update.
Stress that the phone is bricked either wilfully via OS update or by a bad
software patch by Google.
When asked to send to their repair center UBREAKIFIX, reject, and tell them
you already know what people in your situation experience
(attempts at battery replacement, or cause unknown, motherboard replacement
- which is literally a phone replacement).
State it is reported here and in tech sites that exceptions are being made
*for this exact* situation.
Tell them you are willing to accept being "out-of-warranty" if they will
publicly declare this is caused by a hardware fault.
Short of that, they can't PROVE it was NOT caused by software. And if an
update is caused by software update, it is negligent and does not pertain
to warranty.
Tell them you know they have received EDL/QUSB phones for the engineering
team to review (search this thread), if there is no public position as to
why it occurs, then,
there is no evidence of hardware failure, therefore your only conclusion is
this bricking is caused by an OTA update by the manufacturer, therefore you
will only
accept a replacement or a public statement that it is a hardware failure.
During the initial support, when asked if the phone will power on, if you
have D0 power state, *emphatically* state the phone is indeed on, despite
nothing on screen.
Don't let them rephrase that the phone won't power on, this is inaccurate.
By maintaining the phone is fully on, it narrows the problem down to the
EDL mode, not, "just a phone that won't turn on".
Explain that since the secondary bootloader is not working, of course
nothing can talk to the screen.
If you have time to research and understand that EDL mode requires a
digital signature from Google to reflash the phone and perhaps how/why the
firehose protocol is needed.
Explain that if a primary bootloader (Qualcomm EDL) can load, ready for
flashing, then there is no hardware failure unless a repair partner can
prove after flashing in EDL results in failure.
Request escalation after passing all the Level 1 support questions and when
they say they've never heard of EDL/QUSB.
Level 2 will be dodgy, too, but keep pressing, in all the support formats
made available - voice, chat, email.
Be prepared to spend hours in chat & voice. My motivation was to have an
equitable resolution, to fight for the principle of the issue.
For me, I estimate the used market value of my P3XL to be ~$150.
Ask yourself how many hours of tying up their support is equitable. 4
hours? 6? 8?
I spent roughly 5 to 6 hours. At 8 I would have quit and chalked it up to
making Google pay their call centers instead.
Eventually, they made the exception replacement.
Other notes: be firm, don't get mad. show empathy by saying things like, i
know you can't do more in your position, but I _really_ need to speak to
someone who can.
Level 2 will have the authority to "speak to the engineering team", which
is the same as the car salesman talking to their boss, it's just a
reassessment of whether it's more cost
effective to railroad you or give you a replacement. Keep all these in
mind.
IF somehow they say their position is final, fine, call back and don't give
your ticket # and let them open a new ticket, and start over again.
IF the final decision is to send your phone to authorized repair center,
say no thanks, I'll keep my phone as-is in order to retain proof in the
event it is needed for a class action suit.
Good luck all. If you are like me and into the principle of things, I have
no doubt you'll help make Google see it's clearly cheaper to send us
refurbs,
especially when we stand firm tying up support lines and refusing to send
to UBREAKIFIX, which is a way for them to say, oh well, if repair center
can't fix, it's hardware, you're SOL!
PS - if at some point you would like to signal you will be a little
adversarial, or need to occupy more time, right after the call connects to
a human, ask them if the call is recorded.
They will confirm. Then tell them you are recording too -- they will say
you are not allowed to per policy. Say, fine, you will stop recording, but
launch a philosophical discussion of
how it is equitable or fair for one party to record but not the other.
Easily a 15 minute discussion.
-JH
On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 2:19 PM <buganizer-system@google.com> wrote:
ri...@gmail.com <ri...@gmail.com> #750
ti...@gmail.com <ti...@gmail.com> #751
ma...@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> #752
"I truly understand the entirety of your point. Regardless of what is the issue of your device, we rely on the warranty policy. As I mentioned from my previous email, we cannot process a replacement as the warranty of your device has already expired."
I bought a 4a cheap to get me working again, and now people are having issues with 4's too. Great.
on...@gmail.com <on...@gmail.com> #753
When I plug it into a PC, the computer makes the chime sound that something has been connected but nothing is visible. If I hold the power button while connected to a PC it will make another chime and something called "QUSB_BULK_CID:XXXX_SN:XXXXXXXX" will show as a connected device but nothing can be done with it.
Looking into this online appears to be a HUGE issue with Pixel 3's since December 2020, but accelerating since September this year.
What is Google doing about it? Is there a solution, or a class action in place yet?
g....@gmail.com <g....@gmail.com> #754
br...@sevensoupcans.com <br...@sevensoupcans.com> #755
I'd love to get this resolved as this device was still working properly!
wy...@gmail.com <wy...@gmail.com> #756
-Phone plugged in over night and woke up to blank screen? Check.
-No combination of button presses/holds can reset/recover/turn on the device? Check.
-Connecting it to my PC and it comes up in device manager as QUSB_BULK_CID:XXXX_SN:XXXXXXXX? Check.
-Wondering what Google will do to rectify this issue, but expecting it will be nothing? Check.
na...@gmail.com <na...@gmail.com> #757
"
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Hi Me,
I am sorry if you felt ignored. We have checked with the internal team already on this issue and we request you to try the suggested below steps.
We release system updates to improve system performance and stability and to fix minor bugs. System updates are intended to keep devices secure.
We are not sure what changes might have made though developers settings or devices could have been modified/ rooted in any way where it could break the OS. Developer mode is specially intended for developers to use restricted features and provide feedback to the Android team.
If there's a system update available and the device has never been rooted, I recommend you to please update the device.
Good day!
Thanks!
Sasha
The Google Support Team
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<me@gmail.com>
10 Oct 2021, 17:21 (2 days ago)
to device-support
Hi
Thanks for the reply, so are you saying that if I update my phone and it bricks in the same manner as all the other devices reported, you would be willing to replace it?
Thanks
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device-support@google.com
10 Oct 2021, 20:15 (2 days ago)
to me
Hi Nathan,
We cannot promise anything. We release system updates to improve system performance and stability and to fix minor bugs. System updates are intended to keep devices secure.
If you wish, you can try to update the device and that will help you. We can check other options, once you follow the steps recommended to you earlier.
Thank you for your time.
Thanks!
Sasha
The Google Support Team
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<me@gmail.com>
10 Oct 2021, 20:48 (2 days ago)
to device-support
Hi
But as you said "If there's a system update available and the device has never been rooted, I recommend you to please update the device." and my device isn't rooted, then if this update bricks my phone you would take responsibility for this?
Thanks
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device-support@google.com
10 Oct 2021, 21:03 (2 days ago)
to me
Hi me,
As informed you earlier, I wouldn't be able to comment anything for now. If you experience any issues with the device post update. I will have to collect the details from you and check with my internal team seeking their suggestions.
Thanks!
Sasha
The Google Support Team
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They really are tip toeing around this.
jo...@jedi.net <jo...@jedi.net> #758
So, I worked up enough courage to hold down the power button and it eventually reset and showed the Google boot screen and came up just fine. I checked the settings and it shows that Oct 2021 security update was applied.
I'm waiting for the Pixel 6 Pro launch next week. Now I'm wondering if I should choose to trade this thing in (the selfie camera lens is FULL of dust) or just keep it and wait for the Class Action suit to maybe get some more value out of it? Any suggestions on that decision?
ji...@gmail.com <ji...@gmail.com> #759
going to upgrade anyway.
Even though Nexus class action suit netted between $5 to $400 for the
bootloop defect,
there are mitigating possibilities, a) if the suit successfully goes to
trial, b) the case wins, and
c) if Google's Arbitration Agreement is opted out, or enforceable.
If you purchase a new Pixel today, notice you are forced into agreeing to
arbitration agreement *upon purchase*.
You then have 30 days to opt-out, make sure you opt-out to fully retain
your power to join a class action case if necessary.
Nexus case source:
On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 5:52 PM <buganizer-system@google.com> wrote:
jo...@gmail.com <jo...@gmail.com> #760
gl...@gmail.com <gl...@gmail.com> #761
dr...@gmail.com <dr...@gmail.com> #762
ki...@gmail.com <ki...@gmail.com> #763
If this was Apple, it would be headline news on all the tech and news sites, and the company would definitely offer some sort of compensation.
A perfectly working phone one day, and a brick the next day, due to some sort of pushed automatic update, is unacceptable. In or out of warranty.
an...@gmail.com <an...@gmail.com> #764
wr...@gmail.com <wr...@gmail.com> #765
bs...@gmail.com <bs...@gmail.com> #766
Not under warranty anymore, of course, but perfectly functioning phones are just bricking overnight??? This does not sound like a hardware issue.
pe...@gmail.com <pe...@gmail.com> #767
wd...@gmail.com <wd...@gmail.com> #768
ah...@gmail.com <ah...@gmail.com> #769
ri...@googlemail.com <ri...@googlemail.com> #770
oz...@gmail.com <oz...@gmail.com> #771
an...@gmail.com <an...@gmail.com> #772
bo...@gmail.com <bo...@gmail.com> #773
li...@gmail.com <li...@gmail.com> #774
tm...@gmail.com <tm...@gmail.com> #775
re...@gmail.com <re...@gmail.com> #776
When plugging the phone into Windows 10, the phone shows up as QUSB_BULK_CID:<redacted>. Device manager says: The drivers for this device are not installed. (Code 28) There are no compatible drivers for this device. To find a driver for this device, click Update Driver.
ga...@gmail.com <ga...@gmail.com> #777
I have a glimmer of hope from Google. I've been going back and forth with their tech support for 3 weeks now. Just in the last day or two, the tech rep has said that she is checking with her resources to continue looking into my case. She said she'd get back with me in the next 24-48 hours. I have linked her this tread and a few other news articles on the issue during our conversations. She said that she isn't allowed to comment on 3rd party news articles but it seems like Google is aware that it's being reported on.
an...@gmail.com <an...@gmail.com> #778
ko...@gmail.com <ko...@gmail.com> #779
fi...@gmail.com <fi...@gmail.com> #780
sc...@gmail.com <sc...@gmail.com> #781
ru...@gmail.com <ru...@gmail.com> #782
ru...@gmail.com <ru...@gmail.com> #783
Also #188 + #200 +#548+ #599 +#672 bricked while playing MUSIC
on...@gmail.com <on...@gmail.com> #784
al...@gmail.com <al...@gmail.com> #785
va...@gmail.com <va...@gmail.com> #786
While I've experienced issues since the beginning (bought it Nov 2018 with speaker sound distortion, camera lagged or froze intermittently), I did not expect a flagship phone to suddenly brick itself. Can't even recover some of the data that I didn't get a chance to back-up. Previously a Pixel fan (mainly got it for taking photos), but never again!! Won't be recommending Pixels to anyone in the future. Such unreliable devices.
ph...@gmail.com <ph...@gmail.com> #787
to...@gmail.com <to...@gmail.com> #788
When I plugged it into my PC, it pops up as QUSB_BULK in the Windows Device Manager.
pe...@gmail.com <pe...@gmail.com> #789
pa...@gmail.com <pa...@gmail.com> #790
"I wonder if anyone running a custom ROM is experiencing the same issue.
After a few years when my phones start to get older, I like to breathe new
life into them with a custom ROM... I didn't do it this time (was running
the developer's version of 12), but I'll be that I could have "saved" my
phone that way."
Since my Pixel 3XL has yet to brick, and since I purchased a OnePlus 9 Pro, because sorry google, not giving you any money for the Pixel 6 pro I had planned on buying, not with this sort of treatment for existing customers (also canceled google fi and moved to Mint Mobile) - anyway, I figured I'd test it out. Since a single pixel 3XL that hasn't bricked yet isn't really a representative sample, there's quite possibly nothing to learn from this. But since I do require a backup phone, I figured I'd give it a shot. Installed LineageOS 18.1 just now. Running fine.
Only time will tell. And really, until google actually figures out and explains exactly why this failure is happening, time may not tell.
But one this is for sure, I'm never dropping a dime on google phones or service, ever again.
mi...@gmail.com <mi...@gmail.com> #791
jb...@gmail.com <jb...@gmail.com> #792
ti...@gmail.com <ti...@gmail.com> #793
We need an official statement from Google on what the fix will be.
On Mon, Oct 18, 2021, 10:55 AM <buganizer-system@google.com> wrote:
ch...@gmail.com <ch...@gmail.com> #794
I contacted Google support, but they told my that my device is 2,5 years old and now out of warranty.
So they did not offer anything. This is a very unlucky customer experience.
sm...@gmail.com <sm...@gmail.com> #795
li...@gmail.com <li...@gmail.com> #796
on...@gmail.com <on...@gmail.com> #797
My suggestion is to not quit at your first NO from the first line of support. They ultimately don't have any power and are following a script, one that says the device is out of warranty. Ask to speak to the next level of management in your case. Make sure to outline exactly what happened when your device crashed, and mention the EDL issue. Google is unlikely to take action on this proactively, so we need to be loud enough to be heard. Otherwise, they are likely to face another class-action like the Pixel 1, and the right people need to hear this, not just the frontline customer service reps.
Also, I was told during my call (second call actually, after 2 chats), that Pixel device support is not handled by the customer service phone or chat. It is only managed via email. I don't know if you can email them directly without a rep referring you to them, but here is the email all my support issues went through: device-support@google.com
Good luck everyone! I'll let you know if things don't work out as promised.
ga...@gmail.com <ga...@gmail.com> #798
I was also just contacted by Google support and offered a device replacement. I have been going back and forth with them for a couple of weeks and was always respectful. It seems Google may finally recognizing the issue.
ma...@mattlovett.com <ma...@mattlovett.com> #799
bi...@surgeons.org <bi...@surgeons.org> #800
zo...@gmail.com <zo...@gmail.com> #801
mi...@gmail.com <mi...@gmail.com> #802
en...@gmail.com <en...@gmail.com> #803
phone was not damaged or dropped. died while listening to music.
tried 3 button reset, not powering up any more.
This is not acceptable that software update can brick a device, and that there is no repercussions or resolution or honoring or replacing of the device by the cause.
bi...@gmail.com <bi...@gmail.com> #804
in...@gmail.com <in...@gmail.com> #805
ga...@gmail.com <ga...@gmail.com> #806
To all those still chatting with Google support, keep trying! Link this thread to them, be respectful, be honest, and keep asking what they can do to remedy the issue. I did take mine to a ubreakifix store but they tried to swap the battery and said it couldn't be fixed after that. I was honest with ubreakifix as well on what the issue was with details from this thread.
ph...@gmail.com <ph...@gmail.com> #807
Following day, my partner's P3 froze up. She chucked it on charge for a while and thankfully it came back to life. Auto updates are off now and fingers crossed this one doesn't go down too.
se...@gmail.com <se...@gmail.com> #808
sp...@gmail.com <sp...@gmail.com> #809
I know this doesn't help the situation at all, but I just saw that you can buy
Definitely don't take it to ubreakifix, it's not worth it. Google needs to replace everyone's defective phones for free.
jo...@gmail.com <jo...@gmail.com> #810
ro...@gmail.com <ro...@gmail.com> #811
du...@thedatabender.com <du...@thedatabender.com> #812
al...@gmail.com <al...@gmail.com> #813
On Tue, 19 Oct 2021 at 2:44 AM <buganizer-system@google.com> wrote:
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ga...@gmail.com <ga...@gmail.com> #814
ai...@gmail.com <ai...@gmail.com> #815
ia...@cazabat.com <ia...@cazabat.com> #816
Got my out-of-warranty replacement Pixel 3XL yesterday. My original post was #459, followed up by #728. As I said in my last post, be courteous, but firm. State that this is their fault, not your own.
RMA number: RMA51612316 Case ID: 1-9241000031851
I hope this information helps someone. Keep pressing them, be truthful, be nice.
cr...@gmail.com <cr...@gmail.com> #817
An...@Joncas.net <An...@Joncas.net> #818
cg...@gmail.com <cg...@gmail.com> #819
Thanks for contacting Google Support.
I have checked all the further options and in this case, as the device warranty has expired, the only option we have is to get the device repaired at the authorized repair partner, here are the details:
Website:
Phone: 1-877-320-2237
Hours
Mon-Sat: 10 AM to 10 PM PT
Sun: 12 PM to 8 PM PT
Thanks!
I have stated this is a glitch from your software update and nothing I have done. Maybe now that the pixel 6 launch has happened, google stops caring...
ni...@gmail.com <ni...@gmail.com> #820
Was charging phone last night as always. Woke this morning to a brick. No lights, no charge indication (charges wirelessly based on lights on stand)
Plugged into computer, and QUSB_BULK_CID:XXXX_SN:XXXXXXXX shows up.
Device is stuck in EDL mode.
What's the next step?
me...@gmail.com <me...@gmail.com> #821
That Pixel 6 Pro will be on my AT&T line and the regular Pixel 6 I ordered directly from VZ w/o trade in. Both of these I am able to expense out for my job. But the AT&T is primary and the VZ one is secondary/backup.
I will keep the 4XL as a backup for both, just in case history repeats itself like the current issues with the 3 XL that are ongoing.
***side note, I just checked Google Store and looks like they are only giving $80.00 now for Pixel 3XL with 128GB that powers on and no cracked screen. So my guess is that they had an influx of orders with people trading in their Pixel 3XL, for whatever reasons, and they will be sending those out to people who are experiencing the current issues with their Pixel 3XL who b*itch loud about the brick issue and then selling them as well, as mentioned above, to people who will buy "refurbished" just to get a working phone back. I have a new battery in the 3XL that is only 12 months old, so whoever gets it, at least the battery is newish.
ph...@gmail.com <ph...@gmail.com> #822
ky...@gmail.com <ky...@gmail.com> #823
js...@gmail.com <js...@gmail.com> #824
as...@googlemail.com <as...@googlemail.com> #825
Upgraded to Android 12 earlier this week and overnight, whilst on charge, it’s gone dark in EDL mode.
du...@thedatabender.com <du...@thedatabender.com> #826
al...@gmail.com <al...@gmail.com> #827
al...@gmail.com <al...@gmail.com> #828
ga...@gmail.com <ga...@gmail.com> #829
If ubreakifix tells you that they can't fix it, give that info to Google Support. They'll likely ask for the location, receipt, and repair number.
sh...@gmail.com <sh...@gmail.com> #830
sh...@gmail.com <sh...@gmail.com> #831
bg...@gmail.com <bg...@gmail.com> #832
sp...@gmail.com <sp...@gmail.com> #833
bu...@googlemail.com <bu...@googlemail.com> #834
sc...@googlemail.com <sc...@googlemail.com> #835
lo...@gmail.com <lo...@gmail.com> #836
ph...@gmail.com <ph...@gmail.com> #837
br...@gmail.com <br...@gmail.com> #838
ma...@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com> #839
li...@gmail.com <li...@gmail.com> #840
fi...@gmail.com <fi...@gmail.com> #841
It does not accept all operations, including charging, and the screen remains off.
I bought a Pixel 6 but it will arrive next week.
Google's hardware support isn't as good as Apple's.
I want improvement it.
sk...@skaccess.com <sk...@skaccess.com> #842
connected my phone to the OEM charger on the 22/10/2021 night, went to sleep,
woke up on 23/10/2021 morning and my phone was off. tried to turn it on, nothing.
when connecting it to a computer, it is showing as QUSB_BULK_CID:0402_SN:XXXXXXXX
contacted google support, and they redirected me to a repair company and would not do an RMA.
i ask them to escalate the issue, will see how that goes.
wo...@gmail.com <wo...@gmail.com> #843
pi...@gmail.com <pi...@gmail.com> #844
Took the official android 12 update yesterday.. phone was working fine.
I went to sleep, and when I woke up the phone is completely dead. When connecting to PC I get: QUSB_BULK_CID:0402_SN:XXXXXXXX in device manager
Ain't that some BULLLLLLLLSHEEEET
fi...@gmail.com <fi...@gmail.com> #845
Phone was working fine last night, woke up to it bricked this morning after leaving it charging overnight.
This is a stock Pixel 3 purchased from the Google store in 2018.
da...@gmail.com <da...@gmail.com> #846
jr...@gmail.com <jr...@gmail.com> #847
Tried all the combinations of power+down volume for 1 minute, etc...
Plugged it into the computer and shows up as: "Qualcomm HS-USB QDLoader 9008 (COM4)"
ne...@gmail.com <ne...@gmail.com> #848
sp...@gmail.com <sp...@gmail.com> #849
st...@gmail.com <st...@gmail.com> #850
pe...@gmail.com <pe...@gmail.com> #851
pi...@gmail.com <pi...@gmail.com> #852
on...@gmail.com <on...@gmail.com> #853
Just don't give up. If you get told no, ask to be escalated to the next level or management/support. If they say no, keep asking for the next level. Be sure to explain EXACTLY what happened when it died. Make sure to explain the steps you've taken, including if UbreakiFix looked at it. Make sure they know it has the QUSB_BULK_CID label when plugged into a computer and that it is the EDL issue. Give them links to reputable articles referencing this issue, including this thread. Basically do all the heavy lifting for them if you want this resolved. They will not do it on their own out of kindness. We need loud voices keeping the issue from being swept under the rug.
It is clear this issue is accellerating in recent months. I fully expect a class-action suit or other action by Google before long. This is a huge issue, Google knows it, but they aren't going to admit it until they are forced to.
I guess I just want you to not give up. Keep pushing for a resolution. And remember, the first-line phone and chat support has no real power to help you. They have a strict script to follow. You need to go up a level or two for help. The Pixel team is where you eventually want to end up (and they only work via email). Also, reach out through multiple channels. I did phone, chat, and even direct messaged the Made by Google Twitter account (which seemed to be the best path for getting things rolling). Good luck and don't give up!
fk...@gmail.com <fk...@gmail.com> #854
al...@gmail.com <al...@gmail.com> #855
I'm losing unrecoverable data, access to my multifactor authenticator, and so much more. Any reference to the nation wide bricking is ignored by Google. Simply unprofessional and ridiculous.
oz...@gmail.com <oz...@gmail.com> #856
dk...@gmail.com <dk...@gmail.com> #857
sh...@gmail.com <sh...@gmail.com> #858
The phone is dead. It's completely unresponsive, doesn't respond to the power button or volume button combinations to get into recovery mode, fastboot mode, etc NOTHING. I'm seeing the same QUSB_BULK_CID:0402_SN:XXXXXXXX in my device manager when I'm connected to my windows PC.
I finally got through to Google Support and they eventually said there's nothing that could be done. The phone is long out of warranty and not worth fixing. I've already pre-ordered the Pixel 6 Pro, hoping to use my Pixel 3XL for trade-in credit, but I guess I won't qualify for any credit anymore.
ro...@gmail.com <ro...@gmail.com> #859
cb...@gmail.com <cb...@gmail.com> #860
je...@gmail.com <je...@gmail.com> #861
th...@googlemail.com <th...@googlemail.com> #862
gn...@gmail.com <gn...@gmail.com> #863
mc...@gmail.com <mc...@gmail.com> #864
caused by a software issue (or perhaps I have just been lucky so far): I
turned off automatic app software updates weeks ago. 65+ app updates are
waiting now. I have not installed the last security update. I have not
updated to A12. My Pixel 3 is still running ok at this time. Sure wondering
how long I can keep this up.
On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 1:32 PM <buganizer-system@google.com> wrote:
ni...@gmail.com <ni...@gmail.com> #865
Google has offered me an 'Exception Replacement'. It was rather easy to get to, but again your mileage may vary (I'm in canada, so I guess it's Kilometrage)
1. Engage google support chat (usually a bot + human for level 1 stuff) let them and the bot run through the script and answer as required. Eventually they will run out of script. Save the chat ID.
2. They will hopefully (especially if you're courteous and a normal human being) escalate you to tier 2. I asked to be escalated as "I had lots of previous google devices, and was literally communicating on my nexus 5 which still worked". I asked for customer retention.
3. Eventually they will recommend that you either send it in, or take it to "youbreakifix" or a similar authorized repair location. Take it to one of those, and get an estimate for repairs. If you don't think it's worthwhile, don't get it repaired, and re-initiate the conversation referencing the chat ID.
4. Once you let them know that it isn't economically viable to repair the phone, hopefully they will initiate an exception and send a replacement. You could indicate that's what you want. They should send you an email.
5. Work with them, and hopefully you'll luck out.
Best of luck
js...@gmail.com <js...@gmail.com> #866
My previous support ticket apparently they stopped replying to.
Google support is such a joke.
ir...@gmail.com <ir...@gmail.com> #867
st...@gmail.com <st...@gmail.com> #868
go...@gmail.com <go...@gmail.com> #869
I would LOVE if people would say if their dead phone was on stock or custom ROM: that would give us statistical power to maybe avoid bricks in a lot of phones in the future!
PLEASE DO INCLUDE INFO IF YOUR NEXUS WAS ON STOCK ROM OR CUSTOM ONE
re...@gmail.com <re...@gmail.com> #870
But in the end I could resolve this issue and now I have a working phone again. What I did: installed the correct Qualcomm drivers, after doing so my phone was recognized in Windows Device Manager as 'Qualcomm HS-USB QDLoader 9008 (COM4)'. And then I used the 'MSM Download Tool', this can be a specific OnePlus tool (I don't know for sure) but maybe there is also such a tool for Pixel phones....?
oz...@gmail.com <oz...@gmail.com> #871
ow...@neko-logic.com <ow...@neko-logic.com> #872
Google has to find out what is causing this, create a fix for it, then deploy it to protect any further updates. Since they seem to be asking some users to send in their bricked devices, it would seem that's what they're working on (although how many engineers they've assigned to this is anyone's guess). Debugging something that is intermittent and not easily repeatable is a difficult task, so this may take some time. I very much doubt this is deliberate and although it seems to mostly affect Pixel 3s, it seems from this thread that a few 4s and 5s are also affected, the 6 doesn't use a Qualcomm processor so hopefully it won't be affected by this, but I wouldn't rule anything out at this point.
My Pixel 3XL bricked itself overnight at the start of September, stock Android 11, locked bootloader. I'm an Android developer, and using vanilla OS is kind of important to me (I've had various Google phones since the Nexus One, and I've always liked them), so I hope that Google resolves this soon. I'm waiting to upgrade to the 6, but I won't do so until they have some kind of fix.
ni...@gmail.com <ni...@gmail.com> #873
@#870 @#871 not the tool itself is the problem (
mi...@gmail.com <mi...@gmail.com> #874
de...@gmail.com <de...@gmail.com> #875
FIX THIS, GOOGLE!!
me...@gmail.com <me...@gmail.com> #876
la...@gmail.com <la...@gmail.com> #877
er...@gmail.com <er...@gmail.com> #878
It died unexpectedly while wirelessly charging October 27, 2021. Yes, this is starting to sound like a epitaph or obituary.
It was at about 80% when she looked at it last, and then it was just dead and would not turn on. We've tried Power + Volume Down both plugged in to AC power and not plugged in.
It's never been rooted (probably not even possible on the Verizon model) nor have we installed any of the beta versions of Android. She took the official Android 12 OTA within the past week.
Nothing we've done so far has worked to coax any sign of life out of the phone.
la...@gmail.com <la...@gmail.com> #879
js...@gmail.com <js...@gmail.com> #880
I've sent them responses with this link, they don't even acknowledge it. I called UBreakIFix and they said "don't bring it in" because they can't actually fix it, and that they are getting flooded with this problem all week.
I told Google this, their response? "Contact UBreakIFix and they can fix it, they're the manufacturer". No, they're not the manufacturer. and they're not even reading the words I'm writing. I'm sure you guys are having the same experience. Terrible.
ge...@gmail.com <ge...@gmail.com> #881
having some issues before but just the other day my phone started having
Bluetooth and wifi issues again after working flawless for at least a few
weeks. Really weird
On Wed, Oct 27, 2021, 8:16 PM <buganizer-system@google.com> wrote:
jo...@gmail.com <jo...@gmail.com> #882
I have about 16 bug reports saved over the phone's life, with the latest in the end of May (bugreport-blueline-RQ2A.210505.002-2021-05-29-14-33-05).
al...@gmail.com <al...@gmail.com> #883
I don't think I'll be going for another pixel, although I've been very happy with my 3 until this.
mc...@gmail.com <mc...@gmail.com> #884
tc...@gmail.com <tc...@gmail.com> #885
Release the firehose so we may potentially fix this.
me...@gmail.com <me...@gmail.com> #886
an...@gmail.com <an...@gmail.com> #887
de...@gmail.com <de...@gmail.com> #888
I have begun contacting media outlets and linking to this page in hopes of someone picking up the story.
Thousands of bricked devices over a short period of time known to be caused by and ignored the manufacturer is patently unethical and anti-consumer.
pa...@gmail.com <pa...@gmail.com> #889
je...@gmail.com <je...@gmail.com> #890
it will cost me almost $500.
No replacement offer even though I bought it directly from their store due
to being out of warranty.
Not even a gift card to compensate me for ruining a perfectly running phone
prior to the software update, and
Not even an apology or acknowledgment of their mistake.
I don't think calling and bugging customer support is worth my while. They
are probably suffering from irate customers and anyway underpaid to handle
this fiasco.
What is the next step for all of us? Should we file a claim to a claim's
court so we can all be compensated?
On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 10:38 AM <buganizer-system@google.com> wrote:
on...@gmail.com <on...@gmail.com> #891
Of course they sent me another Pixel 3...so we will see if this one craps out too, but it is better than nothing. My dead one is on it's way back to them for analysis.
Frankly everyone here is right. This is a huge problem. We shouldn't have to go through the lengths I did...and clearly Google is aware of this problem. It has been reported in several outlets already, and Google has acknowledged it to people via documented emails. BUT, it is being ignored and that is a big problem. I think a class action is in order, and I fully expect one soon. If there are nearly a 1000 people here with this problem, think of all the people who don't know to look at Google Issue tracker...my bet is this is in the tens of thousands of devices, and it is rapidly increasing month to month. I also think people concerned here should reach out not just to attourneys specialising in this, but to their congressional repesrentatives as well. Once legal action is taken Google will go into damage control.
ni...@gmail.com <ni...@gmail.com> #892
Just joined the ranks of dead Pixel 3s 2 days ago. Ran android 12 and didn't unlock or mess with the bootloader in any way. Should Google release the firehose file and let us restore our devices would we still retain our data? Reading the XDA developer forum,
th...@googlemail.com <th...@googlemail.com> #893
mi...@gmail.com <mi...@gmail.com> #894
mi...@gmail.com <mi...@gmail.com> #895
kr...@gmail.com <kr...@gmail.com> #896
di...@gmail.com <di...@gmail.com> #897
da...@gmail.com <da...@gmail.com> #898
de...@gmail.com <de...@gmail.com> #899
le...@gmail.com <le...@gmail.com> #900
Hi,
Thank you for writing back to Google support.
I've read your email. Unfortunately, we do not have an alternative for you. I'd kindly request you to check with any other local repair stories and see if they can fix this for you. (I live overseas)
Have a great day!
Thanks!
The Google Support Team
mf...@gmail.com <mf...@gmail.com> #901
My original post on this thread was #394, in Sept, but I did not go to direct personal calls until Oct, when I saw that some had received replacements. My bad. Also, months ago I replaced my bricked Pixel 3 with a Pixel 5, which has a much better battery than I ever saw with the P3. However, I was unhappy to learn that the P5 also has the same Qualcomm chip that has bricked in the 3 and recently in the 4 Series. (Pixel 6 apparently does not. Maybe Google's reaction to issue) Happy to learn however, that Verizon offering an open extended warranty period until 12/2021 even for phones purchased months ago. EW for $4.15/mth sounds attractive if available without extra add ons. Will explore and update a report in near future
Any lawyers on this thread should consider 'Class action' which I would be willing to join.
" Thank you for contacting Google Support.
Please be informed we've already escalated the matter to the higher up team and we've got the same answer. Your device is no longer eligible for a replacement as it is already out of warranty. We can definitely see where your frustration is coming from and we wish this was a policy we could bend. But please understand that our hands are tied."
ga...@gmail.com <ga...@gmail.com> #903
sm...@gmail.com <sm...@gmail.com> #904
Since I heard about this issue, and subscribed to this issue, I have updated my phone 3 times. Each time I was dreading the result. Each time I encountered zero issues.
I'd really like to know what is different between my pixel 3a and the rest of the affected devices.
pg...@gmail.com <pg...@gmail.com> #905
ad...@lidskialf.net <ad...@lidskialf.net> #906
Plugging it into a PC shows it is now stuck in QDL mode.
ss...@gmail.com <ss...@gmail.com> #907
ja...@gmail.com <ja...@gmail.com> #908
Or is there work being done and communicated to the public and I am just not aware?
pa...@gmail.com <pa...@gmail.com> #909
2j...@gmail.com <2j...@gmail.com> #910
ta...@gmail.com <ta...@gmail.com> #911
kj...@gmail.com <kj...@gmail.com> #912
My Pixel 3XL bricked just like all of you 09/01/2021 and called and emailed with no results. I THINK IT'S TIME FOR CLASS ACTION SUIT!!!! Also, with enough media and social media post to make sure they don't just think they are getting away with it!
an...@gmail.com <an...@gmail.com> #913
sk...@skaccess.com <sk...@skaccess.com> #914
connected my phone to the OEM charger on the 22/10/2021 night, went to sleep, (Android 11)
woke up on 23/10/2021 morning and my phone was off. tried to turn it on, nothing.
when connecting it to a computer, it is showing as QUSB_BULK_CID:0402_SN:XXXXXXXX
23/10/2021 contacted google support via Chat, and they redirected me to a repair company and would not do an RMA.
i ask them to escalate the issue,
25/10/2021 got a reply via email that they are willing to do a Standard Exchange (RMA)
Filled up all shipping form etc, and requested a pickup (Toll/DPEX/Expansys) from Perth, to Hong Kong
27/10/2021 faulty phone picked up by Toll
28/10/2021 Replacement phone Shipped via StarTrack from Sydney (Ingram Micro)
01/11/2021 Faulty Phone Delivered in Hong Kong.
Replacement Phone Delivered in Perth.
Arrived with Android 10 , 0% battery (9 days since contacting Google Support)
updated to latest Android 12
Now, hopefully the replacement does not brick itself!!!
oz...@gmail.com <oz...@gmail.com> #915
st...@gmail.com <st...@gmail.com> #916
pa...@gmail.com <pa...@gmail.com> #917
ti...@gmail.com <ti...@gmail.com> #918
- Bought the phone stock from the Google store in 10/2018 and enrolled in Google Fi.
- Loved the phone for 3 years
- Bricked in mid October, same EDL issues everyone is having
- Did all of the useless troubleshooting
- Had a back-and-forth with Google Support, who finally offered me a replacement because of Device Protection
- The caveat is that they aren't acknowledging the EDL issue, they are insisting the device itself is faulty
I have been holding out for a few weeks in hopes that a fix is released so that I can get my data back, but I may just bite that bullet because it's better to get something out of this. I really enjoyed the Pixel 3XL and was planning on upgrading to the Pixel 6, but now I will never buy another Google phone and I am leaving Google Fi.
me...@gmail.com <me...@gmail.com> #919
oa...@gmail.com <oa...@gmail.com> #920
2x...@gmail.com <2x...@gmail.com> #921
be...@gmail.com <be...@gmail.com> #922
sy...@gmail.com <sy...@gmail.com> #923
Google, we thought you were better than this. Don't you make these phones? Don't you make this software? Don't you care about your customers?
cd...@gmail.com <cd...@gmail.com> #924
I can either "retry" or "factory wipe." Retrying results in a flickering screen, then returning to the same retry / factory wipe screen. Factory wiping restores responsiveness, and allows me to setup phone... but then phone becomes unresponsive. It flashes my home screen as soon as it goes to the lock screen. Restarting results in the same retry / factory wipe screen.
I did a factory reset, with no backup. I was able to use the phone as normal it seemed. Tried to factory reset after the successful install and restore all apps - crashed again as stated above.
It seems that at least for my instance, restoring my Pixel is causing the issue. But I still need my passwords, photos, etc. I shouldn't be penalized for upgrading.
ec...@gmail.com <ec...@gmail.com> #925
mi...@gmail.com <mi...@gmail.com> #926
bm...@gmail.com <bm...@gmail.com> #927
ja...@gmail.com <ja...@gmail.com> #928
sk...@skaccess.com <sk...@skaccess.com> #929
@917 i do not have any device protection plan (I don't think that this is even an option in Australia)
ja...@gmail.com <ja...@gmail.com> #930
This is insane. It is a known issue. The phone is not in warranty but it is still fully supported by Google. Google's update broker my phone through no fault (or action) of my own.
Here are the reasonable solutions:
1. Fix my phone for free
2. Send me a new or refurbished Pixel 3
3. Give me a credit to buy a new phone
Anything short of the above is unsatisfactory and unfair. I would like a new Pixel 6 Pro, but with this "customer service" experience, I am thinking it might be time to switch back to iPhone. Apple stands by their product.
w3...@gmail.com <w3...@gmail.com> #931
an...@gmail.com <an...@gmail.com> #932
je...@gmail.com <je...@gmail.com> #933
Thanks much for your help on this!
at...@gmail.com <at...@gmail.com> #934
ca...@gmail.com <ca...@gmail.com> #935
je...@gmail.com <je...@gmail.com> #936
For such an expensive phone from a "reputable" company, I would expect more. I cannot accept the standard reply that it is out of warranty. To me that is just you saying that your company is in the business of only producing low quality phone at a high quality price.
The acceptable action expected from you are either:
- repair the phone at no cost from me
- replace it with a new or refurbished phone
- give me a credit that will allow me to buy a new phone
I hope to receive a reply from this the soonest as this is more than a month old issue.
jm...@gmail.com <jm...@gmail.com> #937
I am not sure how you think this is supposed to inspire me to stick with Pixel phones. It is angering to see how many people before me you have left hanging before me, for months!
pr...@gmail.com <pr...@gmail.com> #938
de...@gmail.com <de...@gmail.com> #939
ja...@gmail.com <ja...@gmail.com> #940
er...@gmail.com <er...@gmail.com> #941
er...@gmail.com <er...@gmail.com> #942
xp...@gmail.com <xp...@gmail.com> #943
sy...@gmail.com <sy...@gmail.com> #944
Our phone was purchased through Verizon. Let's look for a pattern.
What did each of you get your phone?
On Sat, Nov 6, 2021, 11:07 AM <buganizer-system@google.com> wrote:
na...@gmail.com <na...@gmail.com> #945
ro...@gmail.com <ro...@gmail.com> #946
dk...@gmail.com <dk...@gmail.com> #947
ja...@gmail.com <ja...@gmail.com> #948
would send me a transcript of chat as I requested. Completely ghosted me.
At this point I think the best option is to collect screenshots of chat and
report them over to the better business bureau for straight lying to us.
On Sun, Nov 7, 2021 at 10:06 AM <buganizer-system@google.com> wrote:
de...@gmail.com <de...@gmail.com> #949
ka...@gmail.com <ka...@gmail.com> #950
Seems like many have had the same issue.
dk...@gmail.com <dk...@gmail.com> #951
na...@gmail.com <na...@gmail.com> #952
kh...@gmail.com <kh...@gmail.com> #953
ce...@gmail.com <ce...@gmail.com> #954
Before unresponding there are a tip shows some files are corrupt.
ab...@gmail.com <ab...@gmail.com> #955
qu...@gmail.com <qu...@gmail.com> #956
to...@gmail.com <to...@gmail.com> #957
gr...@gmail.com <gr...@gmail.com> #958
j....@gmail.com <j....@gmail.com> #959
wi...@gmail.com <wi...@gmail.com> #960
Was prompted earlier in the week that the Android 12 OTA was ready but I had to postpone it. So, this past Saturday morning I elected to have the phone upgrade itself to Android 12. Seemed to go just fine. Used the phone for the remainder of the day/night. Went to bed, woke up around 2AM and picked it up to check the time and instead, discovered this message being displayed:
"Your device is corrupt. It can't be trusted and may not work properly." The only action I could take was 'Press power button to continue' which, upon doing so, caused the phone to apparently power off and ever since, we got nothing.
Can't power it up at all. Can't boot into fastboot mode. It is literally unresponsive.
Like everyone else, when I plug it into my Windows PC, plug n play detects it as a "QUSB_BULK__CID:0402_SN:9CAF70CD"
This phone was never bootloader unlocked, nor did it ever run anything custom. Developer Options never enabled, thus USB debugging was never enabled. Pure OEM setup.
It's absolutely ridiculous that a routine update (the timing is too coincidental to not be related to that) would make it impossible to recover the software/OS on the cellphone but clearly I am not alone. I've owned Nexus devices, the Pixel XL v1, v3 and 3XL, 4 XL and I have a v6 Pro coming next week. Heck, I even got invited to join the Pixel SuperFans Facebook group. That said, I'm in the throws of an existential brand-loyalty crisis over this because of how much of a disruption this has caused and the seeds of doubt that researching this has sewn.
ah...@gmail.com <ah...@gmail.com> #961
fp...@gmail.com <fp...@gmail.com> #962
Stuck in EDL Mode.
Completely dead. Nothing is bringing it back to life.
How can it be a possible that an update bricks a phone.
This is not good. So much for investing in a tough phone case with a pretty phone for it only not to work now.
Google do something about it please.
Your customers are not happy.
co...@gmail.com <co...@gmail.com> #963
Rebooted yesterday around 2PM Eastern.
Phone worked fine for rest of day.
Put on charger at ~1030PM Eastern and was fine.
woke this morning to black screen
Tried Power/Volume Down buttons - nothing
Get QUSB_BULK... message when connected to PC, so assume I'm stuck in EDL mode like others.
Went round and round with support this morning, but their bottom line is "your device is out of warranty, so it's your issue to fix". Zero responsibility for the software update that caused this.
This is HORRIBLE customer service. I escalated to what I was told was highest I could go and referred them to this tracker. Their response "well, that's a public bug tracker, so not relevant" despite the fact that this thread and dozens of similar discussions exist around the internet.
I was pretty happy with my phone and had planned to upgrade to Pixel 6 soon, but just can't do it if this is how they treat folks.
Can't afford to wait around until they maybe fix the issue, so off I go.
Since Google controls Android, do I have to have a lobotomy and go to Apple to be safe? I can't even believe I said that, but this is just too sucky for words.
dk...@gmail.com <dk...@gmail.com> #964
wo...@gmail.com <wo...@gmail.com> #965
I told Google I would pay them $433 on the hope that they could repair my phone...NEVER!! They owe me and the rest of us replacement phones at the very least.
Lots of web sites for their buggy OS:
This is a scam to FORCE users to buy their new 6 which runs 12 and is chock full of spyware and buggy as hell, they even make the chip! I have filed a complaint with the FCC and the Better Business Bureau of Santa Clara County. Believe it or not Google does not participate with the BBB, no surprises.
el...@gmail.com <el...@gmail.com> #966
Hi everyone and today I unfortunately join this discussion.
I was a Google Phones fan until this morning. My Google Pixel 3 XL worked great but it broke down AT NIGHT while charging, although I don't have automatic updates. So I took it out from charging, and it was just dead. I tried to check the USB port, to check the charging condition, to turn on/off button and turn sounds +- buttons and all that things... It doesn't 't work at all !
My computer did not see my phone at all, then it began to identify it as a driver called Qualcomm HS-USB QDLoader 9008.
Then I turned to the Google support center, where I was asked to do the same procedures with charging and on/off buttons (they take us for fools!)
and tell them my IMEI number to let me know that my warranty is over (as if they just couldn't just ask if I have a valid warranty, of course I dont, the phone was released in 2018).
At the end, the consultant suggested that I send the phone to the service center and choose that this is a problem with the motherboard (lol, I didn't have any problems until Google forced update)
Anyway I will do it soon and will inform you if you are interested to find out if it is possible to solve this issue.
jp...@gmail.com <jp...@gmail.com> #967
I woke up this morning, the phone no longer works.
After multiple searches and a lost day of work.
My Google pixel 4 XL has switched to EDL Mode.
I contacted google who want me to PAY the repairs.
If anyone has any files that I could use in qpst or qfil I am the taker.
thanks in advance
jn...@gmail.com <jn...@gmail.com> #968
ni...@gmail.com <ni...@gmail.com> #969
ee...@gmail.com <ee...@gmail.com> #970
tr...@gmail.com <tr...@gmail.com> #971
ai...@gmail.com <ai...@gmail.com> #972
am...@gmail.com <am...@gmail.com> #973
Another update on my RMA. After some prodding, Google sent me a Pixel 4 to replace my bricked Pixel 3 which I sent back to them under RMA for evaluation of the issue a few weeks ago.
As I mentioned in my previous post(s) they also sent me a Pixel 5 because I voiced concern about the 4 other Pixel 3s on my account dropping dead.
As others have said, be persistent but respectful. I have had the most luck with chats and very little luck with email. Obviously YMMV.
dm...@gmail.com <dm...@gmail.com> #974
ai...@gmail.com <ai...@gmail.com> #975
qu...@gmail.com <qu...@gmail.com> #976
ba...@gmail.com <ba...@gmail.com> #977
le...@gmail.com <le...@gmail.com> #978
I know, this is an issue tracker for Android, but maybe someday Google might be arsed to make the EDL files available so we can at least attempt recovery.
th...@gmail.com <th...@gmail.com> #979
Contacted the support (France) and ask me to pay more than 400€.
aw...@gmail.com <aw...@gmail.com> #980
currently open ticket with support.... not optimistic
mi...@gmail.com <mi...@gmail.com> #981
cb...@gmail.com <cb...@gmail.com> #982
jz...@gmail.com <jz...@gmail.com> #983
th...@gmail.com <th...@gmail.com> #984
It mentions the EDL stuck issue specifically.
ja...@gmail.com <ja...@gmail.com> #985
na...@gmail.com <na...@gmail.com> #986
noticed that the updates were not going once by month as of late and we're
directly going from my current settings to android 12 in one update. I
suspect they had a bug and fixed it in a later update. I was able to get
one phone replaced after it bricked with the August security update and the
replacement pixel 3 was successfully updated to Android 12 by myself. My
other pixel 3 was sitting at Android 10 and I was able to upgrade to
Android 12 in one update...no issues. That phone never bricked. For the
one I did get replaced, I used to Google chat to get to the 'Pixel team' to
get the replacement. My advice be courteous but persistent.
On Wed, Nov 17, 2021, 8:44 PM <buganizer-system@google.com> wrote:
ta...@gmail.com <ta...@gmail.com> #987
ro...@gmail.com <ro...@gmail.com> #988
ma...@googlemail.com <ma...@googlemail.com> #989
ch...@gmail.com <ch...@gmail.com> #990
ji...@gmail.com <ji...@gmail.com> #991
al...@gmail.com <al...@gmail.com> #992
er...@gmail.com <er...@gmail.com> #993
op...@gmail.com <op...@gmail.com> #994
wi...@gmail.com <wi...@gmail.com> #995
My response was, "Based upon my research, the only available repair options is replacement of the motherboard with one that has a healthy bootloader partition. Here's the issue with that - there is no guarantee that the next OTA will not kill my replacement motherboard's bootloader, so that option seems unwise. wasteful."
Following that I said, "Please send the Pixel team a request to supply a software-solution which employs Qualcomm's EDL mode to reinstall the Android bootloader. That's the only way to guarantee this problem can be overcome going forward."
And of course the on-line support person's response was, "I will take this feedback and forward to the specialist team."
--sigh.
tr...@gmail.com <tr...@gmail.com> #996
Don't see how its on us to pay when it looks like the phone's issue is caused either by an update or something else especially since it runs fine and then decides to just enter the EDL Mode.
I have a 6 Pro on the way but the way its being handled sort of makes me rethink do i want to spend and potentially have this issue affect or another one where im forced to pay for something that was not caused by my misuse..
ch...@gmail.com <ch...@gmail.com> #997
Well, that's certainly coming to a stop here and now. I gave them another shot after the GNex burn-in, and the Nexus 4 turned out fine. Nexus 6P wasn't so fine, and ate its own face just like this one. I gave them another another shot with the 3XL, which has had every problem in the book from panel issues to imbalanced speakers and wireless problems, and finally ate its own face as well. Fool me four times, shame on me.
de...@gmail.com <de...@gmail.com> #998
My Pixel 3 is also bricked out of the blue. Working perfectly, great condition, no mods. Last night it went into EDL out of nowhere and now it is completely unresponsive.
Spoke with customer support, as expected they told me my warranty is up and that I should take my phone to uBreakIFix. It's terrible customer support from Google's side. They certainly know of this problem and are still sending their customers to a third party repair shop that they know will not be able to actually fix the problem. I spoke with uBreakIFix on the phone and they told me Google doesn't give them the files that would be nessesary to get the phone out of EDL mode anyways so there's no point.
It seems comical that some of the posts I've read online say that the recommended repair by the shops was a screen replacement. It shouldn't be 'uBreakIFix', it should be 'Google ships faulty hardware, Google Fix'.
Google knows about the problem and they would rather send their customers on a wild goose chase and spend money to get their perfectly good phone out of a state that was no fault of their own, rather Google's.
I'll try to see if I can talk to someone at Google who can actually solve this issue without deflecting it to someone else.
Until then...
Google if you are reading this, PLEASE own up to your mistake.
fr...@gmail.com <fr...@gmail.com> #999
ra...@gmail.com <ra...@gmail.com> #1000
Google own up to your mistake!!!!
Description
It is able to charge both wired and wirelessly. I see "Qualcomm, Inc. Gobi Wireless Modem (QDL mode)" when I plug it into my computer and run `lsusb`, but it is not detected by `adb devices` or `fastboot devices`. I see it rebooting by watching `lsusb` while I hold down the power button.
This seems to be more than an isolated incident, as this reddit thread shows multiple users in the same situation.
* What device are you using? (for example, Pixel 4 XL)
Pixel 3
* What are the steps to reproduce the problem? (Please provide the minimal reproducible test case.)
Phone was on a wired charger overnight while sleeping.
* Issue Category e.g. Framework (platform), NDK (platform), Hardware (CPU, GPU, Sensor, Camera), ART (platform), Runtime Permissions etc
Hardware
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Google Response:
“This issue occurred due to the natural lifecycle of a memory component. Memory components have a predefined lifecycle based on consumer use cases over time. The recommended solution is an out of warranty repair or replacement - see
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